Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Basically on a Caldari shield tanked missile ship medium slots are more valuable than lows. 3 slots still allows for DC, BCU and maybe fitting modules.

But this is my Opinion.

how's 6 mids on a nighthawk overpowered compared to a claymore or vulture with 6 mids, or the rest of the command ships

post fit

So... the Nighthawk is going to do average 12,7% less DPS* than... a Cerberus ?
HAS new specs

Cerberus wich is going to snipe at average 120km.

errrrrmmmm....


* Base 100 on one heavy launcher (ROF bonus is equal for the both ships) :
Nighthawk - 5 launchers and 10 kin dmg bonus : 550
Cerberus - 6 launchers and 5 kin dmg bonus : 630

Was away for the weekend and iPads are absolute crap as forum whoring tools!

Damnation: What happened to the idea of allowing them to either link or go face-melt-time? It has more EHP than badly fit carriers but less damage than the Sacrilege. Was kind of expecting it to be an upgrade to the drone based Prophecy, leaving Mims/Cald to wield the missile spamming secondary hulls but 'meh'.
- All the other former triple link hulls got a massive damage/application boost but not the brick, why?

Absolution: Again, you want either links or face-melt, so what is with the 2 empty highs it is left with when fitting guns .. doesn't seem like much of a choice scenario to me when you practically force links in there (NOS = useless, Neuts = cap out).
- Move a high to the mid slot. Make the choice a real one and give it far more options in regards to both fighting and linking .. mids make the world go around. ALternatively add the missile slots back or add a gun.

Caldari: No real comment, looks solid enough. Nighthawks will flood the hi-sec mission space and pose a very real threat to tackle elsewhere while Vulture has the potential to be a very nasty secondary dps boat in brawls.

Ass-tart: Looks good, maybe lower sig some as it is far too big for a ship that is presumably meant to armour rush or you could lower the mass to allow for DP fits that will allow active tank to catch up while staying under the guns.
Eos: Finally found an excuse to push it back into OP-land with five heavies, good on you! Don't really see what ship that doesn't rely on heavy neuting will be able to beat these but then I don't really see a reasonable alternative so I'll hop on the "neuts on everything" train.. last person remaining on that particular platform as far as I know

Minmatar: With ASB's they will forever be broken, 'nuff said. Otherwise respectable tweaks, good to see you deemed missiles worth carrying over from the BC hull for them when you didn't think the Amarr drones were .. one out of two aint bad, not good either though

so how are the new new cs's coming?

you know the ones that either brick for fleet work or dps/tank for small gang fun

Well, using links is the general idea of Command Ships. That's the entire reason they've changed the ships to have the utility highs and improved the damaged bonuses to compensate for less guns

I'd kinda like the Eos to have the sentry tracking bonus, but after seeing how deadly they can be with it in the Tourney I'm half worried about it - even though sentries are nowhere near as deadly on TQ.

I don't think the Nighthawk really needs a huge change, certainly not to it's bonuses or highslot layout. I'd not complain at a low being moved to a mid though. Would allow it to buffer very nicely providing it got some extra grid which would please anyone wanting to shield blob anywhere :)

I'm quite happy with Gallente and Minmatar not having any buffer bonuses on a second thought. You use the Caldari/Amarr ships for the big blobs and accept lower maneuverability and use the more mobile Gallente and Matari ships for smaller scale skirmishes. It fits the race characteristics fine, it's the same with the T2 logi cruisers.

Can the Damnation lose it's missile speed bonus and have another damage mod if it is struggling for raw dps? It's a big fleet ship with huge tank so I think it should be fine to get up close for a more brawly range and punch hard.

because all commands have 5 weapons now, thats why you get better bonuses.
the extra turret its just CCP being funny

In the end doesn't really matters/cares for me how much my opinion here is worth or not, I'll be flying the next OP one because I can.

2 active tank galletne SCs? no worries I will not be boosting fleet or gang anyway but ganking with tanky BC's

its because the most command ships were given enough slots to fill the 2 high slots with unbonused weapons if they want to

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Forum ate my post? :s

Terrible idea. If they need to go in that direction it should be with fitting reductions of links (like torps on bombers) - not by making everything else impossible to fit. You want to make links a no brainer, not stop people from using the ships.