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Aazo Askiras
The Black Star Elite
Coalition of Independent Corps
#1 - 2013-08-05 06:10:29 UTC
Alright, so I was really enjoying Eve so far, and really wanted to start paying the subscription but now I am getting bored in the game so easily. Is it because i'm doing something wrong or I am not playing it right? I REALLY want to get into it, like REALLY but I just keep getting bored. I will try to do some mining, then just alt-tab for a few during that time and think, why am I mining? What will I do with that money? So yeah, i'd love to keep playing, it's just really hard to find much fun so far. I'm not bashing the game or anything, because I really want to actually play it. Any tips for good play-styles for beginners would be appreciated. Thanks.
Daler Farmon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-08-05 06:48:35 UTC
Get in to some newbie friendly corp. Seems u do only solo-play. I'm also a newbie, just started a week ago, and had exactly the same thinking like u do now. I'm now a part of quite nice corp, so we do mission/mining and etc in fleet. Also, in some big fleet u could go to low-sec or null to kill other players, so it's actually very good.

Just find some corp, and u will find out what to do next.
Fr00b Snap
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-08-05 07:59:54 UTC
Try FW, shaky hands, fastened heartbeat and difficulties with breathing guaranteed after first solo kill.
Sam Wessette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-05 08:36:13 UTC
mining is BORING

go scan down people doing level 4 missions and salvage their wrecks.
the pay is much better and it keeps the heart pumping
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-08-05 08:47:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
Try some of this stuff.
Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#6 - 2013-08-05 09:37:39 UTC
You could join a null-sec corp that's prone to big wars. I was having 'boredom issues' as well, until I got into a corp that actually did things, and supported their newbies.

You've correctly identified that ISK is only a means to an end. It's possible to look at ISK as a high score, and enjoy the processes of getting crazy rich, with not enough ways to spend the money. But even if you're that type, this perspective alone probably won't be enough to keep you going.

Mining and missions and whatnot isn't the reason you play Eve. What you do as a corp usually is. And then, for some, once they've come to understand the game and social ecology well enough, it's possible to identify solo goals and do awesome things alone or as a small group. But for now, I'd suggest finding fun in a large or well-organized and pro-active group, one that will make the effort to get you going(because pilots are an asset).
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-08-05 10:03:50 UTC
confirming good advice above.

on a more general note: just try stuff out. do not obsess over ISK, your skill queue or anything else, just do things that sound fun and see if you really like doing them. also, as stated above, eve is much cooler when you're flying with spacebros.

I should buy an Ishtar.
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#8 - 2013-08-05 11:00:07 UTC
You need a goal. Perhaps a big goal a lá "I want to fly all Amarr/Gallente/Caldari/Minmatar ships" and then you put smaller goals in front of that i.e. "I want to fly all Amarrian frigates efficiently!" then you train for those, fly in those, get better in those, PVP in them and so on.

You can also set a goal to become an industrial mogul. Start small, get some BPCs, mine the minerals needed if you want or buy them, then manufacture. Increase your skills in industry, then buy a BPO, join/create a corporation with likeminded people (joining would be easier in your position) and do things together.

Generally, doing things with others makes the game a lot more fun.

ヽ(⌒∇⌒)ﾉ へ(゜∇、°)へ (◕‿◕✿)
Aazo Askiras
The Black Star Elite
Coalition of Independent Corps
#9 - 2013-08-05 22:05:22 UTC
Thanks, everyone. I'll try to get back into it. I'd like some help though. I'm not very sure what a corp is. Is it basically a clan or guild for Eve? Sorry, not very familiar. I used to play WoW and other MMOs so i'm guessing a corporation is a clan? Also, how would I join a good one? Are there more "bad" ones than there are good? Can I join one with a trial account?
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-08-05 22:27:14 UTC
yes, corporations are 'guilds' for all intents and purposes. finding a good one can be hard as a new player. if you want to play it safe, i would recommend eve university or brave newbies inc.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Nerdious
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-08-05 22:28:31 UTC
Aazo Askiras
The Black Star Elite
Coalition of Independent Corps
#12 - 2013-08-05 23:38:59 UTC
Alright guys, now I have to ask, would a subscription make the game any more fun now? I thought the faction wars sounded pretty cool but I cant do it in a trial account. I thought the one month of game time and the Caldari Starter pack sounded like a really neat deal. Is it really worth it though? Is the full game better than trial? And is the ship and extras a get worth it in that pack? Thanks for any answers.
Solai
Doughfleet
Triglavian Outlaws and Sobornost Troika
#13 - 2013-08-06 02:49:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Solai
There's not many things that are barred from a trial account. Although I didn't know Faction Warfare was one of em. Faction warfare I hear is pretty fun. If I ever get tired building sandcastles with my Corp/Alliance/Coalition, or get tired of their wars to kick over other peoples sandcastles, then I'd probably go straight to trying out Faction Warfare(FW). FW isn't perfect, but it will give you action. It would change your gameplay experience, and probably make the subscription worth it.

Alternately, you can find a corporation that operates out of low-sec space, or null-sec space. This represents a COMPLETELY different way to live. And I'd suspect that they're a bit better at helping new guys get their feet on the ground and up to speed. I'll double the recommendation for Brave Newbies; My corp had moved down there for a bit to pick on them in the past, and their fightin' spirit was strong.

Another option are to join a corp that's in one of the largest coalitions. These tend to have excellent support programs, offering a huge amount of resources and expertise to draw from. By necessity, they're very organized and competent. That's what I did, and I'm still there and happy as a clam. We just wrapped up a big war, where I was joining fleets of hundreds of pilots every day. I was in fights that had over a thousand ships crammed in one spot in a tightly organized brawl. We were part of the biggest PVP fights in MMO history. So there's something good to find in Null-sec, too.

Either way, all of these corps want commitment. If you're on a trial account, corps will be possibly less inclined to bring you in, as you represent an investment of their energy. And trust. Every new member is a potential spy, after all. So I suggest taking the gamble, shelling out a couple bucks, and help turn this game into something great. Because, especially in Eve, you get out what you put in.

As for the Caldari Starter Pack, I don't know what that is.
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-08-06 03:07:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
Oops. Double post
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-08-06 03:09:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Praxis Ginimic
If you're talking about the steam starterpacks then no, not really. If you're talking about the limited edition 10th anniversary pack then yes, there are some things in there which you could sell fit a respectable nest-egg. I would however suggest that you good onto those items until you've figured out hours not to get scammed and you know what you want to spend the ISK on.

What might be more beneficial Ann's less expensive would be to start over with a 21 day buddy offer trail account. For more info on the buddy offer read the stickied thread at the top of these forums out just shoot me a mail.
Aazo Askiras
The Black Star Elite
Coalition of Independent Corps
#16 - 2013-08-06 03:43:01 UTC
Solai wrote:
There's not many things that are barred from a trial account. Although I didn't know Faction Warfare was one of em. Faction warfare I hear is pretty fun. If I ever get tired building sandcastles with my Corp/Alliance/Coalition, or get tired of their wars to kick over other peoples sandcastles, then I'd probably go straight to trying out Faction Warfare(FW). FW isn't perfect, but it will give you action. It would change your gameplay experience, and probably make the subscription worth it.

Alternately, you can find a corporation that operates out of low-sec space, or null-sec space. This represents a COMPLETELY different way to live. And I'd suspect that they're a bit better at helping new guys get their feet on the ground and up to speed. I'll double the recommendation for Brave Newbies; My corp had moved down there for a bit to pick on them in the past, and their fightin' spirit was strong.

Another option are to join a corp that's in one of the largest coalitions. These tend to have excellent support programs, offering a huge amount of resources and expertise to draw from. By necessity, they're very organized and competent. That's what I did, and I'm still there and happy as a clam. We just wrapped up a big war, where I was joining fleets of hundreds of pilots every day. I was in fights that had over a thousand ships crammed in one spot in a tightly organized brawl. We were part of the biggest PVP fights in MMO history. So there's something good to find in Null-sec, too.

Either way, all of these corps want commitment. If you're on a trial account, corps will be possibly less inclined to bring you in, as you represent an investment of their energy. And trust. Every new member is a potential spy, after all. So I suggest taking the gamble, shelling out a couple bucks, and help turn this game into something great. Because, especially in Eve, you get out what you put in.

As for the Caldari Starter Pack, I don't know what that is.

What is low-sec space and null-sec space? What does it mean?
Aazo Askiras
The Black Star Elite
Coalition of Independent Corps
#17 - 2013-08-06 03:44:39 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
If you're talking about the steam starterpacks then no, not really. If you're talking about the limited edition 10th anniversary pack then yes, there are some things in there which you could sell fit a respectable nest-egg. I would however suggest that you good onto those items until you've figured out hours not to get scammed and you know what you want to spend the ISK on.

What might be more beneficial Ann's less expensive would be to start over with a 21 day buddy offer trail account. For more info on the buddy offer read the stickied thread at the top of these forums out just shoot me a mail.

No, not Steam pack. It was on my account page as a special or something. I ended up getting the Caldari pack and it was free also, so why not? I only had to pay for the one month.
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-08-06 05:27:35 UTC
Space comes in 3 flavors. High security, low security & null security (or 0.0).

In high sec the space police will swoop in to exact revenge on any one who unlawfully opens fire on some one else.

In low sec there are no space police but there are sentry guns on stations and jump gates that react like concord and sting a bit.

In null sec anything goes
Aazo Askiras
The Black Star Elite
Coalition of Independent Corps
#19 - 2013-08-06 06:14:18 UTC
Praxis Ginimic wrote:
Space comes in 3 flavors. High security, low security & null security (or 0.0).

In high sec the space police will swoop in to exact revenge on any one who unlawfully opens fire on some one else.

In low sec there are no space police but there are sentry guns on stations and jump gates that react like concord and sting a bit.

In null sec anything goes

Alright.
Alaric Faelen
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-08-06 06:17:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Alaric Faelen
+1 Daler, first reply nailed it exactly.

Meet people from all over the world. Get on voice comms and you are essentially on a conference call around the world.

Every design element in Eve (beyond the very newbish activities) rewards fleeting up with friends. This game scales incredibly well with even one or two other people along.


When I was new and grinding solo PvE because I just didn't know what else to do- what kept me playing was two other total newbs and I would fleet up and roam low sec, barely having a clue as to what we were doing. But it was fun, social, and people ran away from us because three total newbs can still mash lock/orbit/fire enough to melt a much bigger ship.

I divide my 3+ year Eve experience into two chapters, before PvP, and after. Once I became a pirate and I logged in only to fleet up with friends and shoot people in the face- I never needed another thing to sell me on Eve. I do the same thing now but in the political/military arena of sov null. I may run PvE if there is simply nothing else going on, because the only thing I hate more than PvE is playing an MMO solo.
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