Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Missile bonuses on a Minmatar ship? Really? I'm not entirely sure that's in line with the whole "big guns" theory of the race. How about artillery instead?

Do you miss the dual 10% damage bonus on the sleip? We already have it.

While I agree with those people who think that local reps bonuses on ships that are designed for fleet warfare isn't going to be much useful, if CCP would share such thinking, they would replace them with resist bonuses by now. Therefore I propose that those 7.5%/level bonuses to armour repair/shield boosting should affect remote reps as well so logis have a better chance of saving your Command ship when it gets primaried. Of course, this goes for Command ships only , not for ships like Cyclone.

reimagined claymore missile hurricane

It should be the opposite direction then. The smaller the ship and the heavier the tank, the more it will survive. That's because of mobility and signature, both important in every weapon tracking formulars. Just take a look at tech 3. If you fit them with tank fit they tank more then every battleship right now.

But no, i don't think that would be a good idea. As i said in my previous entries, the damnation does a good job in tanking and providing boosts to a fleet right now. And it gets a small buff to EHP with this changes so it will be well enough in the future. It's just that all the other races won't have a comparable ship in this class - they all lack a brick tanker that's viable for large fleets.

Ok, your English (or lack thereof) tells me that youre an idiot, and your complaint tells me that you know nothing about how missiles work.

An explosion radius buff is better than an explosion velocity buff in basically every way. This is the missile damage formula as far as we know. Allow me to do the math for you since you obviously cant.

Right now faction HAMs with perfect skills:
Explosion Velocity 151.5
Explosion Radius 93.75
Damage Reduction Factor 4.5

Now lets say youre fighting an afterburning sacrilege:
Signature Radius 140
Top Speed 543

With no bonuses you'd be doing 46.18% of your normal damage
With an explosion velocity bonus the explosion velocity increases to 189.375 increasing your damage to 56.24% of normal
With an explosion radius bonus the radius decreases to 70.3125 increasing your damage to 59.53% of normal

This is a straight buff in all situations because of the way the formula works. Not to mention when the target's velocity is near 0 the only thing that factors into the damage reduction is signature radius vs explosion radius which was not helped by the old bonus.

Think first post second.



This exceeds the idiocy of your first post because the math on this one is much more simple.

The old NH got 6 turrets a 5% damage bonus and a 5% ROF bonus

6 * 1.25 / .75 = 10 effective launchers

The new NH gets 5 turrets a 10% damage bonus and a 5% ROF bonus

5 * 1.5 / .75 = 10 effective launchers

You, and everyone agreeing with you are idiots.



With an attitude like that you are lowering the average intelligence of the playerbase and adding nothing to it; i hope you leave and never come back.

@ Sigras
i dont care about +10% damage to 1 damn missile type. everyone knows that in actual combat there are times where you need to fire the other types of missiles.
so boosting the specific faction is pointless. it makes the ship weaker, as does taking away a launcher, are you going to fire kinetic at someone with a 85% resist??? or are you going to hit their hole be it, em, explosive or thermal at say 45%?

well you're obviously ********, so you probably will try to make the square fit through the circle hole, and hit kin... but the rest of us arent like you.

this is HURTING the ship and dps,. NOT HELPING.


also the nighthawk doesn't get bonuses to hams for velocity..
at-least not at the moment. besides i wouldn't use them because im a range whore.


removing a launcher is just a huge freaking (NO), especially for a ship who's weapons are **** already because of over nerfing..

and added damage for a single missile type is ********. because people will either tank that on you, or you're stuck with a **** ship that can only do damage to 1 npc faction. (if that's your cup of tea)
the beauty of missiles was versatility, and they are killing that.


lastly i have no problem leaving, ill be playing x3 or star citizen,. they are much better games then eve.
i hope ccp goes bankrupt and they die XD, will be a fitting end to a game like this. i can already see their numbers shrinking XD.

lol hell when i really want a good combat experience i play nexus the Jupiter incident for a serious, and militaristic space combat sim.

eve is the faggoty wow, cod or world of tanks of space games XD. its to easy, slow, takes to long to do anything fun, and the worst offense of all is its boring.

well scratch that the worst is ccp raping **** every time your 14 hours from the ship, then moving it back a month, then saying 2 weeks later.. oh yeah were raping your ship again.

the worst part, this is like the 19th time this has happened to me in the last year. if this launcher change is made to the nighthawk im done with you ccp.

Are you twelve? Would you like a lollipop to ease your temper tantrum?

i agree on this one

while is dont mislike its slot layout and dont mislike that the boni is now exp radius i agree that on a command ship a single dmg bonus is some kind of fail.

it lost dmg when not useing kin dmg compared to ist current version what makes it even worse (cause less launcher and bigger kin bonus to compare)

- undo agility nerf
- give it rainbow dmg
- a little more fitting plz

i could follow their arguments regarding the cerberus but imho commandships are to advanced for not beeing able to choose their dmg type (problem is blaster rails and laser do 2x dmg types while they have a similar problem they can vary their optimal/fallof and partly dmg composition and do 2 diffrent dmg types at once)

Expanding on this, the missile damage formula is first of all limited at 100% damage, then limited by signature radius/explosion radius. After that we come to a bit of a whacky formula involving a couple logarithmic functions, but the important stuff is in the brackets.

(Sig/Explosionrad * ExplosionV/TargetV)

Another way to put this is:
Sig*explosionV / explosionrad*TargetV

Now a bonus to explosionV would look like this:

Sig*explosionV*1.25 / explosionrad*targetV

Or in essence you're multiplying the result by 1.25

(sig*explosionV / explosionrad*target V) *1.25

A bonus to explosionrad looks like this:

sig*explosionV / (explosionrad*.75)*targetV

It's times .75 because the explosion radius is reduced by 25%, or is only 75% of what it used to be.

Or another way of putting it is:

(Sig*explosionV / explosionrad*targetV) * 1/.75
Or in other words, you're multiplying the result by 1/.75
Which can also be stated as 1.3333

So an explosion velocity bonus multiplies damage by 1.25.
Explosion radius modifies it by 1.3333.

Higher is better, by the way.


And no, Sigras, this isn't for your benefit. I know you already understand it, I'm just explaining it for FleetAdmiralHarper.