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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#61 - 2013-08-03 11:27:12 UTC
Snow Fauls wrote:
Hello Eve,

-snip-

Think about it honestly, for those of use that are Miners new and or old, this is how we play Eve and this is what we pay for with our real life currency, in-game currency and most important of all our time. The New Order is a disruption of the natural flow of Eve, Even if its seen a part of the game or game mechanic .


Honestly have you cowards ever thought of orbiting the asteroid you're mining? Fitting an afterburned to make you as hard to hit as possible?

Of course not, that would require actual intellect not this crap you've come up with.
Dave Stark
#62 - 2013-08-03 11:46:50 UTC
i fail to see the issue. pay the isk the bumper is asking and then he'll be on his way.
duglas Luven
Hell Forge Industries
#63 - 2013-08-03 11:54:37 UTC
Snow Fauls wrote:
Zappity wrote:
Snow Fauls wrote:
Zappity wrote:
No, it's not griefing. Just go to another belt or system and if they keep following you around THEN it might be griefing. But you know this anyway.


how can you warp when being bumped?


So what's your solution? Suspect for bumping? I would greatly enjoy your next visit to Jita.


if you read first orniginal post you would have a general idea/


A while back a few corp mates and I went to an Ice belt and bumped the bumpers even bumped James afew times. it was fun, they ended up leaving.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#64 - 2013-08-03 12:43:58 UTC
Cry more.

The Tears Must Flow
Luc Chastot
#65 - 2013-08-03 14:50:03 UTC
Snow Fauls wrote:
Lets Play a game that i pay a sub for every month then lets pay these people in the game to not be harassed and bumped.
If i dont pay them i dont get to play the game how i want to play Eve and if i cant play Eve how i want, then i guess CCP created a game that i dont want to pay for or play and that i would never recommend this game to my friends family co-workers and any for of social media.
So while the New Order takes over and not only are we paying CCP to play this game we the players are also paying other players to play this game... which those players have no entitlement to the game payment as CCP dose.

Then leave.

Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot.

Shade Millith
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#66 - 2013-08-03 14:59:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Shade Millith
I'm gonna give you a bit of wisdom. Ya ready?

It's called the Procurer.


[Procurer, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Damage Control II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


Mining Drone II x5



See this thing? This thing is worth has over 76,000 EHP if you're paying attention, and will orbit around a rock at 290m/s. It has a yield of 74.5% of a max yield Hulk.

And the hull costs approximately 11 million. Nobody is gonna gank something with that much tank for so little cost.

Or if you want more yield, you can drop the DC for another Mining Upgrade. Then you'll get 58,000 EHP and 80% of a max yield Hulk.


Or, if bumping is the bigger issue, then get a Skiff. 110,000 EHP, 650 m/s.
Brent Vannrosen
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#67 - 2013-08-03 18:12:49 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
i fail to see the issue. pay the isk the bumper is asking and then he'll be on his way.


i fail to see the extortion of paying a nother player to pay for the game that i have paid for the days to play to CCP.

unless the New Order is CCP im not going to pay another player to play this game after ive paid the owners developers and copyright holders to play this game.

i see were this new person is trying to go.

you guys that dont understand fully what is happening.

but maybe its just being blown out of proportion to the point that no one is careing and that when it becomes a serious issue its to damn late. hopefully i wont be around to be effected by that.
Brent Vannrosen
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#68 - 2013-08-03 18:23:23 UTC
[quote=Shade Millith]I'm gonna give you a bit of wisdom. Ya ready?


gonna give you a bit of common sense.

this person looks like they just started.
they look like they know what is going on in Eve or have a rough idea of whats happening in Hi-sec/
this person might have 100k sp and it takes what 6months to train and orca for decent tank and maybe that long for the leadership skills?

so what months of training for that skiff?
de hell is this new player that knows how to play the game knows what they want to do for that time period?

how is that new player going to ever make isk if they cant even do a basic boring task as mining?
what else is there to do while waiting or months for skills to train? mine in that venture and hope no one trys to gank you for being in that venture.
"oh hey can do missions and shoot rats and go pve or pvp"
yeah that **** is only going to make that months to a hole year. good thinking beacuse youre so smart.
"why dont you just orbit the roid u dumbass"
well why dont u do that ur self and see how well orbiting works? it dosnt help the new player enough to survive a gank. and to not be bumped if they want to bump them they are gonna get bumped orbiting or not.

most of you are thinking things with the skills you have new players dont have skills.
which shows youre comon sense skill.
Brent Vannrosen
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#69 - 2013-08-03 18:25:24 UTC

if you read first orniginal post you would have a general idea/[/quote]

A while back a few corp mates and I went to an Ice belt and bumped the bumpers even bumped James afew times. it was fun, they ended up leaving.[/quote]

thats funny and awesome.
did he chase you or try to blow you up for it or find it just funny that you guys were bumping him back?
Brent Vannrosen
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#70 - 2013-08-03 18:25:53 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
i fail to see the issue. pay the isk the bumper is asking and then he'll be on his way.


i fail to see the extortion.
Brent Vannrosen
Subsidy H.R.S.
Xagenic Freymvork
#71 - 2013-08-03 18:27:43 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Snow Fauls wrote:
Hello Eve,

-snip-

Think about it honestly, for those of use that are Miners new and or old, this is how we play Eve and this is what we pay for with our real life currency, in-game currency and most important of all our time. The New Order is a disruption of the natural flow of Eve, Even if its seen a part of the game or game mechanic .


Honestly have you cowards ever thought of orbiting the asteroid you're mining? Fitting an afterburned to make you as hard to hit as possible?

Of course not, that would require actual intellect not this crap you've come up with.



ever see a fleet of mining barges orbit the roids?

ever see a new player orbit a roid and still get ganked?
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#72 - 2013-08-03 20:01:16 UTC
these people arent being ganked they are being bumped out of range of their mining lasers. orbiting the rock would be the simplest solution to the issue
Dave Stark
#73 - 2013-08-03 20:08:46 UTC
Brent Vannrosen wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
i fail to see the issue. pay the isk the bumper is asking and then he'll be on his way.


i fail to see the extortion of paying a nother player to pay for the game that i have paid for the days to play to CCP.

unless the New Order is CCP im not going to pay another player to play this game after ive paid the owners developers and copyright holders to play this game.

i see were this new person is trying to go.

you guys that dont understand fully what is happening.

but maybe its just being blown out of proportion to the point that no one is careing and that when it becomes a serious issue its to damn late. hopefully i wont be around to be effected by that.


"i'm playing an mmo game and refusing to interact with other players" is all you've just said.

i hope you understand how stupid that sounds.
ELWhappo Sanchez
#74 - 2013-08-03 21:47:21 UTC
realy easy to fix if ccp wanted to all they would have to do is make it so the bumper bounces off the miner if a mining laser is mining.
no gate problems with the change and no undock problems with the change.
done
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#75 - 2013-08-03 22:00:33 UTC
If you know you're going to be targeted, fit a tank! That is what stops people from being ganked, but you're apparently far too dense to realize that fact.

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
duglas Luven
Hell Forge Industries
#76 - 2013-08-04 08:10:52 UTC
All I hear is "blah blah blah, I am a little ***** blah blah blah"
brinelan
#77 - 2013-08-04 10:04:23 UTC
You do realize that The Forge is not the only hisec region.. it is ok to move... There is other hisec or .. gasp. lowsec and nullsec regions you can go play in.
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#78 - 2013-08-04 22:48:41 UTC
Tabris Katz wrote:
Lair Osen wrote:
SOLUTION

New mid slot module
when active it prevents you from moving and increases your mass by 10-100 times,
significantly reducing the effect of bumping



Actually there are already low slot modules that kind of do that, ie armor plates. It would be funny to see a mining barge or an Itty 5 loaded out with armor plates to give it a rediculous high mass! I think I'll have to try that next time I log on! I'll name the ship "Bump me, please!" I think this is a brilliant plan. Lol Anyone else want to try it out as well?


Well, plates can have rather high demands on...PG...or is CPU, but let us know how it works. Of course, with high mass, wouldn't it take you forever to stop?

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Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2013-08-04 23:03:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Mocam
Hell of a title for the thread. I figured it was another tardling 'nerf concord' stunt.

As for the issue you are talking about - if bumping is seen as breaking game-play for many (and that is a hell of a lot more than a some in one or 2 regions), CCP will "fix" it. Just like the "priva-tears" nerf to wardecs, titan nerf when those were used differently, the "adjustments" to mining ships due to the lamoids looking for ez-hulkageddon kills,etc.

When "the community" starts trashing an area too roughly, they'll adjust things so just keep this in mind and as you build momentum with your discussions (pull in the Freighter pilots too), it'll hit CCP's radar and they'll adjust it.

Have faith this game does have a lot of "actions have consequences" - even when people figure theirs shouldn't/don't - they do.
zbaaca
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#80 - 2013-08-04 23:42:00 UTC  |  Edited by: zbaaca
Tabris Katz wrote:

Actually there are already low slot modules that kind of do that, ie armor plates. It would be funny to see a mining barge or an Itty 5 loaded out with armor plates to give it a rediculous high mass! I think I'll have to try that next time I log on! I'll name the ship "Bump me, please!" I think this is a brilliant plan. Lol Anyone else want to try it out as well?

you are aimin' to low. buy navy armag , fit 100mn mwd , 3 trimarks and 8x1600mm t2 plates and dont forget to turn on overheat mwd Twisted

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