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TXG SYNC
Dad Jokes R Us
#1 - 2013-08-02 21:00:38 UTC
When you log off, do you tend to log off in your POS or in a safe spot? Why do you do it the way you do it?
Freddie Merrcury
Fukushima Daiichi Electric Power Co.
#2 - 2013-08-02 21:36:02 UTC
depends if I think my own corp is going to awox my dreadnought.

I been kicked out of better homes than this.
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#3 - 2013-08-02 21:40:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Godfrey Silvarna
I try to log off in a safe, but I don't always remember to. I log off in a cloaky ship, but if I are paranoid about AWOXing, log off in your most expensive ship.

If someone is going to siege your tower, they are going to Rapecage(tm) it with bubbles and you will not enjoy logging in inside it while it is being shot at... or after it has died. Logging in cloaked in a safe also denies possible invaders some intel.
Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-08-02 21:50:55 UTC
I tend to log my POS gunners and capital pilots inside the force-fields in case somebody HASN'T had a chance to bubble-cage the tower. Everybody else I log in safes within a few AU of my tower so I can see if anything is near it for my toons who will hit the forcefield.

Svo.

Director of Frozen Corpse Industries.
Marsan
#5 - 2013-08-03 01:07:39 UTC
I'm always of 2 minds. Logging off in a safe prevents you from being trapped in a POS. Logging off in space allows you to be scanned down before you are fully logged out. If I'm logging off in a safe I make sure it's very far away from any planets, and not in line with anything. When logging on if no one is online I'll warp to a safe within dscan of the POS. This of course is only when I'm not with a corp with enough people to watch the hole well or if I'm off line for a week or so. Otherwise I'm lazy and log off in the POS.

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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#6 - 2013-08-03 08:18:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Cipher Jones
I always log off cloaked in a safe spot, so that if I am not the first to log on in the hole and there is PvP, I wont give free intel to the douches I'm about to kill.

Marsan wrote:
I'm always of 2 minds. Logging off in a safe prevents you from being trapped in a POS. Logging off in space allows you to be scanned down before you are fully logged out. If I'm logging off in a safe I make sure it's very far away from any planets, and not in line with anything. When logging on if no one is online I'll warp to a safe within dscan of the POS. This of course is only when I'm not with a corp with enough people to watch the hole well or if I'm off line for a week or so. Otherwise I'm lazy and log off in the POS.


You can only be scanned down if you log off with people in the hole, get better security if you are truly noid about that IMHO.

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Afuran
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-08-03 14:33:38 UTC
Logging off outside of your tower means you are vulnerable for 60 seconds minimum.

If you have recently shot at NPCs, or other POD pilots, you will have another timer before your ship disappears from game.

If you have hostiles in system that have good scanning skills, they can find you and keep your ship online- preventing it from disappearing- this is easier, the larger your ship.

If you have said timers and try to log off at your tower- your timer will tick down while you are safely inside your POS shields.

If you don't have any timers, a good way to do it is to have a long- distance safe to warp to..... as soon as you go into warp, log off-
your 1 minute timer will start while you are in warp, then when you land at your safe, your ship will then do a small warp off your safe spot and complete the rest of your timer until your ship disappears.

You can't be scanned down while you are in warp, thus giving you a long- scan immune time.
Marsan
#8 - 2013-08-03 15:33:53 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
I always log off cloaked in a safe spot, so that if I am not the first to log on in the hole and there is PvP, I wont give free intel to the douches I'm about to kill.

Marsan wrote:
I'm always of 2 minds. Logging off in a safe prevents you from being trapped in a POS. Logging off in space allows you to be scanned down before you are fully logged out. If I'm logging off in a safe I make sure it's very far away from any planets, and not in line with anything. When logging on if no one is online I'll warp to a safe within dscan of the POS. This of course is only when I'm not with a corp with enough people to watch the hole well or if I'm off line for a week or so. Otherwise I'm lazy and log off in the POS.


You can only be scanned down if you log off with people in the hole, get better security if you are truly noid about that IMHO.


Yes but you can never be 100% sure in wspace if you are alone. I've seen people camp a hole, observe via dscan the general location and time a juicy target logs off, then the next day probe down the guy when he logs out. It takes a lot of patience and skill but people do it. It's a lot easier if someone has a safe spot near the POS or a planet.

PS- As I said this is extreme paranoia for when you don't have enough corp mates to secure the hole properly, or you are being actively targeted.

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Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#9 - 2013-08-03 16:34:27 UTC
Afuran wrote:
Logging off outside of your tower means you are vulnerable for 60 seconds minimum.

If you have recently shot at NPCs, or other POD pilots, you will have another timer before your ship disappears from game.

If you have hostiles in system that have good scanning skills, they can find you and keep your ship online- preventing it from disappearing- this is easier, the larger your ship.

If you have said timers and try to log off at your tower- your timer will tick down while you are safely inside your POS shields.

If you don't have any timers, a good way to do it is to have a long- distance safe to warp to..... as soon as you go into warp, log off-
your 1 minute timer will start while you are in warp, then when you land at your safe, your ship will then do a small warp off your safe spot and complete the rest of your timer until your ship disappears.

You can't be scanned down while you are in warp, thus giving you a long- scan immune time.

Have you tried the "Log Off Safely" button? Only 30 seconds, and you can keep an eye on dscan to check for probes the whole time.
Niezachwiany
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-08-03 19:57:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Niezachwiany
everything valuable on safe spot.

Afuran wrote:


If you don't have any timers, a good way to do it is to have a long- distance safe to warp to..... as soon as you go into warp, log off-
your 1 minute timer will start while you are in warp, then when you land at your safe, your ship will then do a small warp off your safe spot and complete the rest of your timer until your ship disappears.

You can't be scanned down while you are in warp, thus giving you a long- scan immune time.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-08-03 23:12:36 UTC
I log all my toons off in deep safes in cloaks combat ships. I have on several occasions been able to catch people playing in our WH this way.
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-08-04 05:08:00 UTC
Logging off in a POS: There is absolutely no advantage to logging off in a POS unless the toon is indie only. When you consider that you may be logging into a r-ape cage or that you may be making yourself known to potential targets in your system, it just makes more sense to log off in a safe.

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Alundil
Rolled Out
#13 - 2013-08-04 05:58:55 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
I log all my toons off in deep safes in cloaks combat ships. I have on several occasions been able to catch people playing in our WH this way.

Always this. Always.

I'm right behind you
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#14 - 2013-08-04 07:28:12 UTC
YWhen it was only me and my friend living out of a c3, I always log in a safe. Now that I am in a bigger corp, I dont pay attention to that. When I log theres always someone.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-08-06 00:24:56 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Logging off in a POS: There is absolutely no advantage to logging off in a POS unless the toon is indie only. When you consider that you may be logging into a r-ape cage or that you may be making yourself known to potential targets in your system, it just makes more sense to log off in a safe.

On the other hand, if you log off in a nullified ship, does logging into find your tower bubblewrapped really matter?
Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-08-06 00:45:12 UTC
I usually just hit the "x" on my client so I log wherever I am in space at that time as long as its in my current home wh