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Another disinformation plot: 'Baseball invented in U.K.'

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Hrothgar Nilsson
#21 - 2013-07-31 18:16:41 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

This is where baseball's roots are.

The US did technically invent Baseball, but it's a spin off from a game that's been played in the UK for centuries which leads to a lot of arguments.

The vast majority of sports that exist in the USA are the same as the foundations of it's culture; an amalgamation of ideas from many countries brought over when the US was colonized by Europe.

I think the only sport that's really "truly" american is stock car racing, which evolved from people illegally running hooch across state lines in cars modified specifically to do so.


Basketball and volleyball are independently developed American sports.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-07-31 18:39:25 UTC
Im still waiting for the Chinese to claim they invented it 2,500 years ago.

They seem to be trying to claim everything else as of late.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#23 - 2013-07-31 20:13:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
OK, so America didn't invent baseball after all. But we invented minor league baseball mascots. My favorite is Ballapeno in the Texas League. Looks like he's have a googly eyes equipment fail. Click around some of the other leagues for some equally cheap and weird characters. Barley in the Northwest League might be a disguised Cthulhu.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#24 - 2013-08-02 14:13:44 UTC
US should take credit for what the world takes pride in its achievement.

Chearleaders with really short mini skirts Shocked

....Also mini skirts are a British thing Big smile

But then you guys have Daisy Dukes. Nuff said.

Anglobrofist!Twisted

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-08-02 15:55:30 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
US should take credit for what the world takes pride in its achievement.

Chearleaders with really short mini skirts Shocked

....Also mini skirts are a British thing Big smile

But then you guys have Daisy Dukes. Nuff said.

Anglobrofist!Twisted


But then asia took the miniskirt to the true belt length.

Evolution ftw!

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"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commissar "Cake" Kate
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#26 - 2013-08-02 17:43:50 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
(After some intensive research (in Wikipedia) on rounders) Yes, it does appear that rounders is a corrupted version of the American game of baseball. Interesting. I wonder how that crossed over the pond from the U.S. to the U.K.? Smile


Baseball was very popular in the UK once upon a time. There was an old football stadium belonging to Derby County which was, I think 99 years old, referred to as "The Baseball Ground".

It was popular here in UK well before the two world wars but it fizzled out.

There is still a forerunner of the game still played called 'Welsh Baseball' which is clearly an older variant of the sport. It's not played much at all but it does seem to survive a little in the Lancashire and Liverpool areas.

The thing is that, like football, no-one knows where it came from originally as foot/ball and bat/ball games have been going on forever and it's only when the laws of the games are put into code when one can really put a marker on the sport.

It's going to be hard to say where baseball came from but perhaps it may be safe to say that the modern version was born in the US but where it came from it's going to be impossible to say. It's like saying where does golf come from? There's records and paintings of Dutch people with stick and ball well before it went to Scotland but it was they who codified the game's laws.

But dig deep enough and baseball's predecessors would most likely have come from elsewhere. But where?

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Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
#27 - 2013-08-02 17:48:05 UTC
jason hill wrote:
oh and for the sake of balance cricket

the first actual recorded version of cricket is a 16th century portrait of the game is done by a dutch painter ..so cricket might not actually be an English game

but then again neither is golf ...its Scottish



Cricket has its origins in the Indian sub-continent. I don't think that any true cricket afficionado would ever claim that it was derived in England.

Trying to force the topic back on track; how many people actually know that the first recorded international match between two nations was cricket? It was played between Canada and the US. Canada, I understand, won.

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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#28 - 2013-08-02 18:30:34 UTC
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

This is where baseball's roots are.

The US did technically invent Baseball, but it's a spin off from a game that's been played in the UK for centuries which leads to a lot of arguments.

The vast majority of sports that exist in the USA are the same as the foundations of it's culture; an amalgamation of ideas from many countries brought over when the US was colonized by Europe.

I think the only sport that's really "truly" american is stock car racing, which evolved from people illegally running hooch across state lines in cars modified specifically to do so.


Basketball and volleyball are independently developed American sports.



meh ...the only decent game the yanks have created ...is wimmins beach volleyball TwistedBear


not that I`m a pervy or anything Big smile
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#29 - 2013-08-03 16:29:57 UTC
jason hill wrote:
Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

This is where baseball's roots are.

The US did technically invent Baseball, but it's a spin off from a game that's been played in the UK for centuries which leads to a lot of arguments.

The vast majority of sports that exist in the USA are the same as the foundations of it's culture; an amalgamation of ideas from many countries brought over when the US was colonized by Europe.

I think the only sport that's really "truly" american is stock car racing, which evolved from people illegally running hooch across state lines in cars modified specifically to do so.


Basketball and volleyball are independently developed American sports.



meh ...the only decent game the yanks have created ...is wimmins beach volleyball TwistedBear


not that I`m a pervy or anything Big smile

Women's beach volleyball is the only Olympic sport. At least, if you watch American network TV coverage of the summer Olympics, that's all you see. Ugh
duglas Luven
Hell Forge Industries
#30 - 2013-08-05 11:05:41 UTC
The core objective of baseball is to run home.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#31 - 2013-08-05 12:09:42 UTC
Graygor wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
US should take credit for what the world takes pride in its achievement.

Chearleaders with really short mini skirts Shocked

....Also mini skirts are a British thing Big smile

But then you guys have Daisy Dukes. Nuff said.

Anglobrofist!Twisted


But then asia took the miniskirt to the true belt length.

Evolution ftw!

Asian girls don't have the arse for it.

Turns out Brazilian girls do.

Mini Kilt. Pirate

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Disturbed Pilot
Doomheim
#32 - 2013-08-07 03:20:19 UTC
hi five to this topic
Astenion
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-08-08 22:50:16 UTC
Who gives a ****?

INB4 some waspish Brit jumps in with his incorrect assumption that it's the same thing as rounders.

INB4 some ignorant American says something equally stupid in retort.
Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#34 - 2013-08-08 22:59:34 UTC
Astenion wrote:
Who gives a ****?

INB4 some waspish Brit jumps in with his incorrect assumption that it's the same thing as rounders.

INB4 some ignorant American says something equally stupid in retort.

Way too late for the first one and this is OOPE, so the latter is considerably beneath average in probability.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#35 - 2013-08-09 00:28:37 UTC
Kirjava wrote:
Astenion wrote:
Who gives a ****?

INB4 some waspish Brit jumps in with his incorrect assumption that it's the same thing as rounders.

INB4 some ignorant American says something equally stupid in retort.

Way too late for the first one and this is OOPE, so the latter is considerably beneath average in probability.

Damn straight. Anyway, this is just a sister thread to the "Bored" thread elsewhere in OOPE. It's been slow, it's the summer off-season, you know. Smile
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