EVE General Discussion

AFK cloakers are important. Especially when they transform into an At They Keyboard Covert Cyno. That's the best part.

So, are you a cyno alt for PL, NCdot or perhaps BL?

401k might be a possibility but they're running away from BL or so I understand they're invading lowsec elsewhere from where they are now.

This is a lie, The EULA says I should be able to do everything in the game i want to if I pay 15 bux, so ima go solo a c6 wormhole in a Rifter, because of mah rights!

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Thing is? Tough luck. That's what they even take sov for, to keep people out. What you are talking about, having stations and resupply and repairs and stuff, is other parts of the game. It's not sov null. That's what sov null is for, to take your own space. It would hardly be their space if you could just dock up where ever you felt. Then it would be lowsec with TCUs.

Why don't they?

1) they go alone.
---people that don't PvP trying to solo? Idiotic. FC's are very rare creatures. In huge alliances of thousands of players, there are but a handful of FC's. When you solo, you are taking on the role of FC along with all the others in a fleet. The sheer enormity of what FC's seem to know about Eve is staggering, yet people that don't even tag along in fleets spamming F1 are surprised they get blown up?
This is a recipe for failure but is incredibly common. The few successful solo pilots started off in fleets and only went solo once they were highly experienced fleet pilots and FC's. However, it is mostly seen by high sec dwellers as a short cut to PvP who are then shocked at their failure. We all love kil2's videos, but he didn't go from miner during the week to solo god on the weekends....he put in the time flying in fleets and working his way to that level of PvP skill that he could do all the fleet roles himself. Scouting, hunting, tackle, ewar, DPS, etc....
Short answer- if you're not ready to FC at least a small gang, you are nowhere near ready to solo on anything but a lucky gank. Real PvP is more than the fight, it is a million other things that mining won't teach you.

2) they have no reason to go there.
---PvP has scope in Eve. That big war in Fountain? It isn't just to collect KM's. There was no war until there was a reason for it- the R64 rebalance. Test's failure-cascade was just a convenient excuse to actually take the sov. Fountain didn't fall to generate KM's. What are YOU going to low or null for? If the answer is nothing more than KM's, go back to dueling in trade hubs and pretending to PvP. Because that's not what PvP'ers are out there doing. At best you're an easy gank for people that live there and PvP all the time. Even if you manage to gank someone, what have you won? Probably the ire of a null sec alliance with more than enough resources to find and crush you where ever you live.

3) they can't 'lose'
---Everyone dies in PvP. Ships mean nothing. Pods mean nothing. Kill mails are only useful for comedy in fleet chat while sitting on a titan. This is the reality of PvP, but is not what high sec bears have in their heads. They go unprepared into space occupied by people who live there and dedicate all their time to PvP, and when they lose they lament their dead ship like it was a family member. I lose ships all the time....don't' care as long as I did my job. Having something more than KM's to die for means I accept 'losing' my ships. I also have an entire hangar full of the things, not just one I can't stand losing to the point I would post on the forums at it's singular loss.

We want you to leave high sec. It's a big universe and it'd be more fun with more people. Just don't 'dabble' at it, mining all week and cruising our neighborhood like a pedo looking to tempt young Rifterlings with promises of candy and autocannon upgrades.

Train up to fly Dictors and I promise you no shortage of null corps happy to have you. From there go mine in null to your heart's content, build stuff, make BPC's...carebear like a boss..no one will ask more of you than to fleet up and die gloriously once in awhile. It's really just that simple, folks.

And that really is the problem right there. It doesn't exist in Sov space. Therefore very few people looking to hunt deep in Sov exist. Its too annoying to be worth it. The result, pockets of extremely safe space that are is the richest space in EvE in terms of carebearing.

You know how many pods I have locked in my Proteus after blowing up their ships... too many. They don't even have basic PvP skills to save their pods. Because they almost never have to worry about other players.

It's not safe space, or you wouldn't be getting kills. (and, with there being no stations, their pods have to warp to a bookmark, not just left click their overview and mash the warp key. And everyone in eve knows it's a pain to navigate the drop down menus sometimes. It's cost me my fair share of deaths, accidentally hovering over the wrong menu)

The problem is that Sov has several attributes. First, it is hard. Harder than highsec in any case(especially the logistics of living there). Secondly, it requires teamwork (lots of it).

A lot of people dislike those two things. You yourself have said you don't want the trouble of bringing in other people.

Sov is for the people who like both of those things, are willing to do it, and have the means to do it.

Sov is not for anyone else.

The same statement can be made about plenty of other places in the game. Wormholes are not for people who won't use D-scan. Those people get the floor mopped with them by the people who are doing it right. Markets are not for people who won't use spreadsheets or do the math for it, they get undercut or their market bought out from under them by the people who are doing it right.

The game is full of things like this.

But if you are telling me that the sov players aren't really able to defend themselves, I say so what? That applies to most of the game, firstly, and secondly, that just makes it easier for you to kill them.

But if it were the case where you could dock up as you please, rearm and refit whenever you liked, and have all (or honestly, any) of the same advantages the people who actually own that space have? No one would PvE there, sov would be trivial for it. It almost is anyway, because highsec is so attractive in comparison if your goal is money.

5bil isk shint ships in highsec are just amazing.

I mean one of those could get you two ratting carriers.

You know not of what you write.




They made SOV to keep people out? Tell the people holding SOV that the mechanic is broken.