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Lazy8s
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-08-01 15:20:05 UTC
First, thank you for all the help on my last post!! I decided to go with the Raven (eventually) after watching some YouTube videos. The Dominix seems great but I really liked the missiles and the explosions!

I ran a few missions after fitting my Drake. I'm earning ok ISK/hr but obviously not great. I'm saving up for my Raven and fittings and (like everyone) I'm trying to maximize my ISK/hr. My Drake fit is below. I'm running level 3 missions in 0.6 space. Currently I am training for tech 2 drones since it will help my Drake, and I will use them on my Raven for level 4s. I did some looking about salvaging and it doesn't seem worth while for level 3s so right now I'm just running the mission fast as possible. With this fit I can basically tank the entire mission and 3-shot anything. Is there anything I have missed or that I could improve upon? Thanks again!!

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I

Ballistic Control System II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Large Shield Extender II
EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Parallel Weapon Navigation Transmitter

Small Tractor Beam I
6x XR-3200 Heavy Missile Bay

5x Acolyte I
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-08-01 15:47:36 UTC
the drake's kinetic damage bonus is somewhat wasted in amarr space. you should rather go for guristas and serpentis instead. also, acolytes are bad; use hobgoblins instead (against angels switch to warriors). aside from these two issues the fit seems solid to me.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Lazy8s
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-08-01 16:28:03 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
the drake's kinetic damage bonus is somewhat wasted in amarr space. you should rather go for guristas and serpentis instead. also, acolytes are bad; use hobgoblins instead (against angels switch to warriors). aside from these two issues the fit seems solid to me.


Thanks! I have been considering moving locations for damage bonus. Also, I don't think Khanid Kingdom is the most profitable faction anyways. Way in the future if I get a Nightmare I guess I can come back and use the EM/therm weak rats.
Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-08-01 17:24:59 UTC
Take a look at the Cyclone, it can do more damage than the Drake can when not shooting Kinetic. It will also get you used to using a shield booster so the transition to Raven, or Nightmare for that matter, will be much smoother.
Kery Nysell
#5 - 2013-08-02 08:08:19 UTC
If you have T2 missiles (Fury and Precision) you can basically ignore the kinetic damage bonus of the Drake and switch missile types according to the enemies in the missions. Works even with T1 missiles, but the T2 make a world of difference !

On a Drake, I'd use one less hardener and one more shield extender, on less Core Defense Field Purger and one more Rigor Catalyst, and I'd switch the Tractor Beam for a Small Remote Armor Repairer (to patch up drones).

Your fit is almost the same as mine, with the exception that I use Caldari Navy hardeners ... farmed LPs for them for a long time Blink

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Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-08-02 10:01:15 UTC
Kery Nysell wrote:
If you have T2 missiles (Fury and Precision) you can basically ignore the kinetic damage bonus of the Drake and switch missile types according to the enemies in the missions. Works even with T1 missiles, but the T2 make a world of difference !

On a Drake, I'd use one less hardener and one more shield extender, on less Core Defense Field Purger and one more Rigor Catalyst, and I'd switch the Tractor Beam for a Small Remote Armor Repairer (to patch up drones).

Your fit is almost the same as mine, with the exception that I use Caldari Navy hardeners ... farmed LPs for them for a long time Blink

if you want to maximize your profits, ignoring a 50% damage bonus is not a good idea, no matter the missile type.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Kery Nysell
#7 - 2013-08-02 11:43:24 UTC
Daniel Plain wrote:
Kery Nysell wrote:
If you have T2 missiles (Fury and Precision) you can basically ignore the kinetic damage bonus of the Drake and switch missile types according to the enemies in the missions. Works even with T1 missiles, but the T2 make a world of difference !

On a Drake, I'd use one less hardener and one more shield extender, on less Core Defense Field Purger and one more Rigor Catalyst, and I'd switch the Tractor Beam for a Small Remote Armor Repairer (to patch up drones).

Your fit is almost the same as mine, with the exception that I use Caldari Navy hardeners ... farmed LPs for them for a long time Blink

if you want to maximize your profits, ignoring a 50% damage bonus is not a good idea, no matter the missile type.


Yup, maybe, but against 'rats with high resistances to Kinetic, you'll do more damage using the right type of missiles for them ...

eve-survival is a godsend for this.

Plus, if the OP is still training his missile skills, I kinda doubt he already has Caldari BC to 5 ... but I might be wrong on that Blink

And finally, L3s are a gateway drug to L4s, you don't really earn real ISKies from them ... I'm currently doing L3s to raise my standings, and the cash flow is maybe a third of L4s IF (and that's a big IF) I can get several big missions in a row, like Extravaganza's ...

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-08-02 18:03:49 UTC
Kery Nysell wrote:
Daniel Plain wrote:
Kery Nysell wrote:
If you have T2 missiles (Fury and Precision) you can basically ignore the kinetic damage bonus of the Drake and switch missile types according to the enemies in the missions. Works even with T1 missiles, but the T2 make a world of difference !

On a Drake, I'd use one less hardener and one more shield extender, on less Core Defense Field Purger and one more Rigor Catalyst, and I'd switch the Tractor Beam for a Small Remote Armor Repairer (to patch up drones).

Your fit is almost the same as mine, with the exception that I use Caldari Navy hardeners ... farmed LPs for them for a long time Blink

if you want to maximize your profits, ignoring a 50% damage bonus is not a good idea, no matter the missile type.


Yup, maybe, but against 'rats with high resistances to Kinetic, you'll do more damage using the right type of missiles for them ...

eve-survival is a godsend for this.

Plus, if the OP is still training his missile skills, I kinda doubt he already has Caldari BC to 5 ... but I might be wrong on that Blink

And finally, L3s are a gateway drug to L4s, you don't really earn real ISKies from them ... I'm currently doing L3s to raise my standings, and the cash flow is maybe a third of L4s IF (and that's a big IF) I can get several big missions in a row, like Extravaganza's ...


Getting BC to 5 before the change is something everybody and thier mother should of done.