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0.0 Belt rat spawn rate

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CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#21 - 2013-07-28 09:51:04 UTC
Hi!

I am sorry for the lack of any CCP responses in this thread so far.
As far as I know there were no general changes to NPC spawns in 0.0. At the moment I can only remember the addition of security tag NPCs in low sec and a small fix to the spawn-rate of a few officers (mostly in drone regions).

Could you please reply with a bit more details regarding the regions / systems, in which NPCs are not spawning corrently? Is it all of 0.0 or limited to specific regions or security bands? In which time zone are you normally ratting?

I'll try to get some details / answers as soon as possible, but I'm still on vacation for two more days, so it could take slightly longer.

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

Bug reporting | Mass Testing
ortaga
0V3RM1ND
0V3RM1ND DARKSTAR
#22 - 2013-07-28 09:58:22 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Hi!

I am sorry for the lack of any CCP responses in this thread so far.
As far as I know there were no general changes to NPC spawns in 0.0. At the moment I can only remember the addition of security tag NPCs in low sec and a small fix to the spawn-rate of a few officers (mostly in drone regions).

Could you please reply with a bit more details regarding the regions / systems, in which NPCs are not spawning corrently? Is it all of 0.0 or limited to specific regions or security bands? In which time zone are you normally ratting?

I'll try to get some details / answers as soon as possible, but I'm still on vacation for two more days, so it could take slightly longer.



21 belts, YE17-R system, stain region, no spawns for hours. ( 5 spawns - 9 cruisers, 4 battleships, 5 frigates in 4 hours )
15 belts S-BWWQ system, stain region, no spawn for hours. ( 1 spawn - one frigate in 6 hours )
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-07-28 11:39:32 UTC
After downtime the belts are normal for about 1-3 laps, from there onwards you will be lucky to find any kind of normal spawn, usually your just find either a single frigate spawn to a single battle ship but this is not the only problem, not only are the spawns coming back broken they are coming back hardly ever. Last night for example 13 belts i ran through them twice found 2 single frigate spawns only, left them logged on this morning found the same 2 spawns none of the belts are respawning after a certain amount of time reducing you to these kind of ticks,

2013.07.28 11:00:33 Bounty Prizes 881,250.00 ISK
2013.07.28 10:44:02 Bounty Prizes 827,500.00 ISK
2013.07.28 10:24:02 Bounty Prizes 1,775,000.00 ISK
2013.07.28 10:14:01 Bounty Prizes 882,000.00 ISK

This is also in the stain region
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-07-28 11:51:48 UTC
I am ratting now and will be for next 12 hours (need to plex accounts badly and i have to rat longer now) i invite u to come watch the belts deteriorate
Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-07-28 16:28:07 UTC
That's basically it. After downtime for the first lap or 2 the belts seem normal. After an hour or so you begin to notice less and less rats to a point where you can actually go through the entire system and not see a single rat - the system will remain in this state until the following downtime. Jumping to the next system the same thing will happen.

Also the spawns seem broken, for example more often than not you will warp into a belt and there will be a single frigate there or a single battleship... Since Odyssey the whole ratting experience seems 'bugged'..

Again this is happening to me in the Stain region in multiple systems - I'm beginning to notice a trend as everyone else in this thread has also mentioned Stain....

Unfortunately I don't think this forum area has enough people looking at so it may not be getting the attention it deserves... Would be nice to know if this problem is just in the Stain region.

R
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#26 - 2013-07-29 10:31:20 UTC
Hi again,

Thank you for the details! I found the very likely reason for this problem and we will try to fix this as soon as possible. It is indeed a bug and seems to affect only Sansha NPCs - one of the Sansha NPCs was deleted, but it was still used for spawning belt rats. As soon as the server tried to spawn such an NPC the belt rats never appeared.

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

Bug reporting | Mass Testing
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2013-07-29 10:49:36 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Hi again,

Thank you for the details! I found the very likely reason for this problem and we will try to fix this as soon as possible. It is indeed a bug and seems to affect only Sansha NPCs - one of the Sansha NPCs was deleted, but it was still used for spawning belt rats. As soon as the server tried to spawn such an NPC the belt rats never appeared.


Legendary
Rattlesnaked
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-07-29 10:52:10 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Hi again,

Thank you for the details! I found the very likely reason for this problem and we will try to fix this as soon as possible. It is indeed a bug and seems to affect only Sansha NPCs - one of the Sansha NPCs was deleted, but it was still used for spawning belt rats. As soon as the server tried to spawn such an NPC the belt rats never appeared.



Excellent, thank you very much CCP Habakuk!
Edward Olmops
Gunboat Commando
#29 - 2013-07-29 11:13:39 UTC
And I already thought Sansha's Nation was finally affected by the concerted efforts of all incursion bears and the NPCs were suffering from deteriorating morale and just not logging in... -.-
Joanne Bravo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-07-29 14:00:52 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Hi again,

Thank you for the details! I found the very likely reason for this problem and we will try to fix this as soon as possible. It is indeed a bug and seems to affect only Sansha NPCs - one of the Sansha NPCs was deleted, but it was still used for spawning belt rats. As soon as the server tried to spawn such an NPC the belt rats never appeared.



Great response! This fits with what I am seeing.

Some belts just do not spawn anything, others you will get a single rat (sometimes just a single frigate). It does also seem to co-incide with the new rats that were added.

This sounds like a easy change to make. Any idea how long it will take until we can get back to some proper ratting?
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2013-07-30 18:28:54 UTC
2013.07.30 18:02:30 Bounty Prizes 463,000.00 ISK
2013.07.30 17:27:30 Bounty Prizes 718,000.00 ISK
2013.07.30 16:57:30 Bounty Prizes 708,500.00 ISK

Any ETA? :( ( and i didn't miss one, i just didn't get a tick for ages :( )
Abby Silverwind
Demonic Retribution
Shadow Ultimatum
#32 - 2013-08-01 11:17:40 UTC
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Skylarr Grey
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2013-08-01 12:12:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Skylarr Grey
Had a corpie say something about this too how his belts after killing the rats were completely dead..


good for miners but not for pve'ers who can only do belts not anoms.

EDIT: We are in drone space too.. -0.3
Joanne Bravo
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-08-01 18:19:26 UTC
Skylarr Grey wrote:
Had a corpie say something about this too how his belts after killing the rats were completely dead..


good for miners but not for pve'ers who can only do belts not anoms.

EDIT: We are in drone space too.. -0.3


According to the dev, this is only effecting Sansha rats.
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-08-02 16:45:56 UTC
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Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-08-05 10:02:34 UTC
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Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-08-06 11:22:50 UTC
I'm no programmer, but this doesn't seem like a massive problem that would takes days to fix.... whats the hold up?
renoufchr07
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2013-08-06 22:58:05 UTC
up is there and eta yet for this?
Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-08-08 09:23:38 UTC
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Rimm Jaw
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#40 - 2013-08-20 11:02:51 UTC
Belt rats are still **** in stain rough update when this will be fixed?
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