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Corax any good in PvP?

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Angry Meatwad
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-06-11 20:33:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Angry Meatwad
Been thinking of getting involved in FW and was probably going to stick to flying Dessies. I think the Corax is pure sex looking, like some sci-fi space submarine but I can't help but feel I'm going to gimp myself trying to use it in PvP, especially any solo roaming.

I was thinking of running it with LM's(never really used rockets before), but it's mid and low slows are a bit lacking. I was thinking a TP, 2 Shield Extenders for a buffer tank and I can't decide on a MWD/AB/Point for the last mid slot. A measely 2 lows I was thinking a BCU and a DCII.

Thoughts? I have other options, my inability to ever stay focused on one type of ship/weapon over the years has left me with a very wide array of skills and the ability to fly damn near everything from pretty good to max.

Thanks for input.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-06-11 20:42:14 UTC
Mwd kite fit or rocket brawler with a td. Those are about the only ways you can fit a corax
Angry Meatwad
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-06-11 20:45:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Angry Meatwad
Bah mispost.
Angry Meatwad
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-06-11 21:40:28 UTC
Would a Web be better than a TP? I feel that a ship without a point seems worthless to try and PvP with, is this not the case?
Fret Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-06-11 21:51:16 UTC
Nah I fly a suicide catalyst at times; usually the fights are so quick people don't think to warp out. You either pop them or they pop you in short order.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-06-11 22:01:34 UTC
[Corax, brawl]
Ballistic Control System II
F85 Peripheral Damage System I

1MN Afterburner II
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
DDO Photometry Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

[Corax, kite]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
F85 Peripheral Damage System I

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
DDO Photometry Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Warp Disruptor II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Light Missile

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#7 - 2013-06-12 02:28:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
Angry Meatwad wrote:
Been thinking of getting involved in FW and was probably going to stick to flying Dessies. I think the Corax is pure sex looking, like some sci-fi space submarine but I can't help but feel I'm going to gimp myself trying to use it in PvP, especially any solo roaming.


As long as you understand that most destroyers are glass cannons, you will not have many problems. Here are a couple of loadouts for the hull.

Corax: Caldari Thrasher Solo Brawler
Glass Cannon Corax Small Gang Kiter
Tikaraz
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-07-08 15:56:34 UTC
[Corax, PvP - Corax ROC]
=LOW=
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Ballistic Control System II

=MID=
10MN Afterburner II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

=HIGH=
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket

=RIGS=
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

PRO - 262.25 / 262.5
PWR - 87 / 90.76

6,334 EHP - Over Heated (Adaptive Invulnerability)
5,980 EHP
209 DPS - Over Heated
178 DPS - Normal
1523 M/S - Over Heated
1110 M/S


Something I have thought about flying recently, tight fit but may be hella fun in a small gang of these with some scram/web frigs
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#9 - 2013-07-08 16:18:31 UTC
Destroyers are really bad. A T1 cruiser running MED sites will be a much better choice for you. T1 cruisers have more EHP, Projection, speed, cap and dps than a destroyer. There really is never a reason to use one in all honesty
Tikaraz
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-07-08 16:22:02 UTC
Chessur wrote:
Destroyers are really bad. A T1 cruiser running MED sites will be a much better choice for you. T1 cruisers have more EHP, Projection, speed, cap and dps than a destroyer. There really is never a reason to use one in all honesty


Going to be an ass but he was posting for FW not running sites, and dessi's are amazing and generally cheaper than cruisers plus you can almost suicide gank anything if wanted :)
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#11 - 2013-07-08 16:40:52 UTC
Tikaraz wrote:
Chessur wrote:
Destroyers are really bad. A T1 cruiser running MED sites will be a much better choice for you. T1 cruisers have more EHP, Projection, speed, cap and dps than a destroyer. There really is never a reason to use one in all honesty


Going to be an ass but he was posting for FW not running sites, and dessi's are amazing and generally cheaper than cruisers plus you can almost suicide gank anything if wanted :)


Yes Faction War. And in faction war you go into sites to get fights. I said that MED's are so much better. Dessis are not amazing, as a t1 cruiser properly fit kills frigs and can handle frig blobs so much better than they can.

And gank Thorax.
Phaade
Know-Nothings
#12 - 2013-07-31 06:03:32 UTC
Can confirm, Corax is absolute ****.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#13 - 2013-07-31 07:49:49 UTC
I took one out when they first came out and got 2 kills with it before some ass hat warped in an oracle and volleyed me off the field. The Thorax was in structure.

In saying that its like anything alse smaller and fast. If you dont know how to pilot it yourself, Dictate range and damage etc. Most importantly properly select a target you will die.

http://zkillboard.com/related/30001269/201212061400/

fit i used.

[Corax, xPredat0rz's Corax]
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Stasis Webifier II
Upgraded 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Scrambler II

'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Mjolnir Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket
'Malkuth' Rocket Launcher I,Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#14 - 2013-07-31 16:59:27 UTC
Corax is nice if you want to sit at the warpin and blast everything to bits and pieces with your kinetic rockets. Can be tanky in that case, however if yomething slips aways from you, you might have a hard time killing it. Javelin Rockets do go out relatively far, but still.

Just know when to hold, and when to run.


If you want to kite with a corax, scrap the idea, skill Minmatar Destroyer, and fly a Talwar. It's still ******* slow, but at least A LOT faster than a Corax and without the massive sigbloom.


To 'Fly Cruisers, Meds so much better!'

Yeah, well, nah, nice troll.

Bringing a cruiser into a med is a massive bait for everyone out there. The moment they spot that you're on D-Scan towards a medium site, they're all like '[Random Cruier Hull Here] @ MED IN [Random Solar System Here]' and voila, someone will come in on you, tackle you, local goes boom, and before you manage to get rid of the initial tackle the ganksquad is landing.

If it doesn't work out like this, then the guy engaging you is either

-********
-pro
-in a very special snowflake fit that will totally screw you all over if it's smaller than a cruiser
-in a cruiser that will dominate you

or

-all of the above




After all, it's FW. If you want to have the full FW expierience, fly a venture with a cloak.
Syrias Bizniz
some random local shitlords
#15 - 2013-07-31 17:00:06 UTC
Ignore this posting >.<
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#16 - 2013-07-31 17:11:24 UTC
Ignore the bad man who said destroyers are bad. Dessies are some of the best ships for FW site running. They take far less skilling than cruisers do and can pump out almost as much DPS. They devour frigates and some are able to our brawl cruisers, given they can get under their guns.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone

God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#17 - 2013-07-31 17:34:39 UTC
Surprisingly, the FCON guy's fit was the best in this whole thread.

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX

Phaade
Know-Nothings
#18 - 2013-07-31 18:32:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Phaade
Syrias Bizniz wrote:
Corax is nice if you want to sit at the warpin and blast everything to bits and pieces with your kinetic rockets. Can be tanky in that case, however if yomething slips aways from you, you might have a hard time killing it. Javelin Rockets do go out relatively far, but still.

Just know when to hold, and when to run.


If you want to kite with a corax, scrap the idea, skill Minmatar Destroyer, and fly a Talwar. It's still ******* slow, but at least A LOT faster than a Corax and without the massive sigbloom.


To 'Fly Cruisers, Meds so much better!'

Yeah, well, nah, nice troll.

Bringing a cruiser into a med is a massive bait for everyone out there. The moment they spot that you're on D-Scan towards a medium site, they're all like '[Random Cruier Hull Here] @ MED IN [Random Solar System Here]' and voila, someone will come in on you, tackle you, local goes boom, and before you manage to get rid of the initial tackle the ganksquad is landing.

If it doesn't work out like this, then the guy engaging you is either

-********
-pro
-in a very special snowflake fit that will totally screw you all over if it's smaller than a cruiser
-in a cruiser that will dominate you

or

-all of the above




After all, it's FW. If you want to have the full FW expierience, fly a venture with a cloak.



My cruiser will kill your destroyer 9.5 times out of 10, and 9.8 out of 10 frigs. I'd also take on any T2 or faction frig. The only benefit to flying a destroyer over a cruiser is that you can enter small plexes and lock quicker to catch things you otherwise wouldnt.

The corax is garbage, mostly because it is sooooo slow.

EDIT: granted, my cruiser fit like that doesn't do well against cruiser up.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
#19 - 2013-07-31 19:32:46 UTC
Actually, in contradiction to what I first posted, train for a Caracal and T2 Rapid Light Missiles (same skill as light missiles, just different module). Then, fit a 100mn AB and kite frigates and destroyers forever whilst giggling maniacally and popping them in 2 volleys.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone

W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-08-01 06:16:17 UTC
Chessur wrote:
Tikaraz wrote:
Chessur wrote:
Destroyers are really bad. A T1 cruiser running MED sites will be a much better choice for you. T1 cruisers have more EHP, Projection, speed, cap and dps than a destroyer. There really is never a reason to use one in all honesty


Going to be an ass but he was posting for FW not running sites, and dessi's are amazing and generally cheaper than cruisers plus you can almost suicide gank anything if wanted :)


Yes Faction War. And in faction war you go into sites to get fights. I said that MED's are so much better. Dessis are not amazing, as a t1 cruiser properly fit kills frigs and can handle frig blobs so much better than they can.

And gank Thorax.


Nah a cruiser isnt better then a destroyer in fw, they cant enter small plex and they are scary, so people will run from you. For pure 1v1/2s in fw areas you usually are well of in a destroyer, that said not a big fan of the corax, its alright for brawling and its 4 mids are nice but a catalyst outdamages it anyhwere in scram range.

For kiting the talwar is your better coice if you want missiles, the most fun dessie to fly however hands down is the arty 280s thrasher.
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