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Racist Tears Harvest. Yumyum for sure.

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Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#41 - 2013-07-30 20:07:51 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Jake Rivers wrote:
A redneck is not a race but a choice of lifestyle.

So calling someone a redneck is not racism, but it could be taken as a insult or a compliment.


So calling a guy a redneck as a "lifestyle choice" in a negative manner (as the term sprung up due to race in the first place) = the same as calling a gay dude a ***** in a negative manner (which never sprung up over race but sexual choice)?

Ah, even CCP's language filters censors the word out. Double standards, indeed.



You missed the point, it is not racism just a insult.

Senex Legio
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#42 - 2013-07-30 20:13:03 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
sexual choice

What?

Oh god.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2013-07-30 20:13:28 UTC
Jake Rivers wrote:
You missed the point, it is not racism just a insult.


You didn't answer the question, which is the point: calling XYZ as a "choice" for ridicule in itself is what's wrong, because that's the behavior in how racism even exists.

Have to have the behavior to discriminate, and that behavior has to be taught and confirmed by the social group to be acceptable.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#44 - 2013-07-30 20:15:52 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
sexual choice

What?


Yep, it's a choice as primates are like that. Unless you don't consider yourself a primate........

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#45 - 2013-07-30 20:16:09 UTC
J3ssica Alba wrote:
You are assuming far too much. Also you are a snitch.


*** alt detected right here folks & someone that never graduated beyond kindergarten playground 'ethics'Roll
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#46 - 2013-07-30 20:19:16 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Yep, it's a choice as primates are like that. Unless you don't consider yourself a primate........

I don't know about this stuff, but describing homosexuality as a choice seems wrong to me and probably quite offensive.

Oh god.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#47 - 2013-07-30 20:23:31 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Yep, it's a choice as primates are like that. Unless you don't consider yourself a primate........

I don't know about this stuff, but describing homosexuality as a choice seems wrong to me and probably quite offensive.


Technically she is right.

Homosexuality is practiced homophilia. It's beyond your choice which gender you feel attracted to. But having sexual intercourse is (usually) a conscious act of choice.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#48 - 2013-07-30 20:25:14 UTC
Yeah, I guess.

Oh god.
Starkiller Lothlorien
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-07-30 20:28:19 UTC
Waitaminute. Ace chip in without WoW mention? Pinch me.
stoicfaux
#50 - 2013-07-30 22:02:30 UTC
Riot Girl wrote:
That's great but why are you typing like that?

If you wrestle with the pigs, you're going to get dirty start talking like the pigs.

Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Mikkir
SHINKETSU Inc.
#51 - 2013-07-30 22:13:04 UTC
So it's still A-OK to kill Minmatar right?
Medarr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2013-07-30 22:21:03 UTC
Ivan Krividus wrote:
Hicksville is in Long Island, NY. We NYers are the opposite of uninformed hillbillies. That being said, OP was the one uninformed enough to not know where Hicksville is. Anyway, good job.

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....... HODOR!
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2013-07-30 22:36:11 UTC
Starkiller Lothlorien wrote:
Waitaminute. Ace chip in without WoW mention? Pinch me.


You won't have to worry about Ace for a while, since I had to cancel my EvE accounts.

5.4 is around the corner and I still need 522 gear (and enough CP points to arena 24/7 for a week).

But I'm sure folks will still be talking about me (I should just make a YouTube channel and post weekly updates, then players can have some WoW player to cry about Acing them at their own game). Lol

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
FOl2TY8
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-07-30 22:38:34 UTC
Lee Hekard wrote:
The Right of Free Speech also, by definition, applies to those who are considered 'racists', 'N@zis', 'bigots', or anyone else you or society do not agree with. Simply applying the Right of Free Speech to defend those of us who hold 'normal' or 'the civilized' views, and quashing those who go against the norm, by definition, does not qualify as 'free' speech - it simply comes under the definition of censorship. So not only are you ignorant, misguided, stupid, and a sheep, but you also have every right to say / type-on-a-forum your ignorant, misguided, stupid, and sheep-like comments without fear of censorship because we (supposedly) live in a society of Free Speech. cool huh?


haha you don't know what "free speech" means
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#55 - 2013-07-30 22:40:19 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:


Your right to speak freely does not mean you have the right to be provided a soapbox by a private entity. Nor does it mean that private entities cannot decide they prefer not to do business with you due to the content of your speech.


This. ^

Think what you want, believe what you want, but this is CCP's medium, and they control the content. You want freedom of speech? Apply to the government. (and ain't *that* an irony, eh..?)
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#56 - 2013-07-30 23:14:28 UTC
Lee Hekard wrote:
The Right of Free Speech also, by definition, applies to those who are considered 'racists', 'N@zis', 'bigots', or anyone else you or society do not agree with. Simply applying the Right of Free Speech to defend those of us who hold 'normal' or 'the civilized' views, and quashing those who go against the norm, by definition, does not qualify as 'free' speech - it simply comes under the definition of censorship. So not only are you ignorant, misguided, stupid, and a sheep, but you also have every right to say / type-on-a-forum your ignorant, misguided, stupid, and sheep-like comments without fear of censorship because we (supposedly) live in a society of Free Speech. cool huh?


Some places people are trying to legislate common sense. Which is impossible. This right of free speech you refer to is often unwritten in Law on planet earth because it's usually understood that others will abide by common sense.
Not everybody in EvE is from the USA, i live in Australia, where your rights are left very vague because A) we don't trust legislators to deal with such things and B) we want to be able to squash the hell out of toxic lunatics without having our common sense having to contend with said lunatic's rights.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-07-30 23:23:09 UTC
The guy that talked about "whitelandia", the place racist white people like George Zimmer... Wait, he's Hispanic? Are you sure? You are... Dangit! Well we'll just call him a WHITE Hispanic, and we've gotta scream the WHITE part so no one hears anything. Those dumb whites won't know any better. Racism and bigotry are not one sided. I'm Native American, and I went to schools where I was one of only 2 or 3 Native Americans. I saw racism, had teachers act like I should be slow. One told me to shut up before she sent me back to the rez. Never saw any other race be treated as badly as I was. In fact, some were treated as saints. One young black kid said he was going to **** my mother, in front of a teacher. She smiled, so I beat the kid up. I was suspended. So tell me again about racism. Some bigot putting a few idiotic words into their bio is the kind of discrimination I envy. Just today the Obama administration announced that they are going to break a 100 year old treaty to sue a business man who has donated millions of dollars to the Six Nations. Where's your outcry against that? Where's your anger over the targeted discrimination of me and my family? If that bio had said **** the indians you would have probably patted the guy on the back.
Marcus Harikari
#58 - 2013-07-31 00:52:32 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
Nicely done! Keep up the good work! No place in EvE for people like this, nor indeed the world imo. Cool

YEAH KILL ALL RACISTS FOR SPEAKING ABOUT THE OBVIOUS TRUTHS IN SOCIETY



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Ivan Krividus
Cold Lazarus Inc
The-Expanse
#59 - 2013-07-31 01:08:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivan Krividus
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Ivan Krividus wrote:
Hicksville is in Long Island, NY. We NYers are the opposite of uninformed hillbillies. That being said, OP was the one uninformed enough to not know where Hicksville is. Anyway, good job.

To finish off, I asb hodor aosi eifhhw of wmo woe btw afk alol eomve and then eiwm foa sn wofu r wmflwo o fo w mof wmlf ow f my wof wfom wos pewpew wjbf rwofj rowk.




C'mon. What district keeps electing Rep. Peter King?

I lived a little west of Hicksville. And I have been in enough private conversations with Long Islanders who all would say, when asked about the super-high property taxes "yeah it's expensive but the n**gers and s**cs can't get out this far". So you got this big "whitelandia" where the "George Zimmermans" come with badges and don't get put on trial when they kill.

After living in that hell, I moved to the South, where everybody in NY says everybody is a big fat racist redneck and lo and behold, there are neighborhoods where you got people of all types living side by side. And those "rednecks"? They were nicer to me than anybody from the Northeast.

So I don't want to hear it from anybody from Strunggiland about anybody else being racists. The island is the biggest collection of racists you can ever find. They'll pay 10 grand a year in property taxes and at least a two hour commute ONE WAY to the city just to "get away from... THEM ",



I said they weren't uninformed; I did not say that we are not a$sholes. Also, I've never met anyone like that. Where in the south did you move to, anyway? It is true that some parts aren't like that when we think they are. I have a friend from a part of alabama that isn't bad... Well at least its not NJ

Think this thread is getting a bit off topic...
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#60 - 2013-07-31 01:18:08 UTC
Chopper Rollins wrote:
Some places people are trying to legislate common sense. Which is impossible. This right of free speech you refer to is often unwritten in Law on planet earth because it's usually understood that others will abide by common sense.
Not everybody in EvE is from the USA, i live in Australia, where your rights are left very vague because A) we don't trust legislators to deal with such things and B) we want to be able to squash the hell out of toxic lunatics without having our common sense having to contend with said lunatic's rights.


The West Wing wrote:
"Toby, this is like if they credentialed the Enquirer to cover the summit."
"If the Enquirer ever asked us, we'd credential them. Making sure the Enquirer can write whatever it wants is the only way I can be sure The New York Times is writing whatever it wants."


To paraphrase, making sure the assholes of the world can say whatever they want is the only way I can be sure that the people I want to listen to are saying whatever they want.


As for dealing with idiots thinking that having certain rights spelled out as especially important to protect imperils the unenumerated rights, well, we've got something for that too.
9th Amendment to the United States Constitution wrote:
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.



CCP has the right to deny the assholes the use of CCP's soapbox to spout assholitry. That does not mean the assholes get squashed. If you think someone is saying something wrong, grab out your own soapbox and put it up next to theirs.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon