Ships & Modules

Jojo, I think it is because for each gun type CCP put a prenerf on an aspect of their performance. This was probably done as a way to dissuade people from fitting off racial weapons on their ships. You want the typical racial buff to overcome the prenerf on the weapon.

For projectiles there is the ubiquitous rof bonus to prevent artys from inducing incredible frustration and sleep and for Autos to become rather good dps.

For Hybrids that traditionally had high rof but not much volley or tracking those were the bonuses they got to make them worht using, damage and/or tracking.

For lasers is has always been cap usage because without it you have to gimp your ship to devote more slots to cap. So having the -10% cap use was there to overcome the prefnerf. Then the tier 3 Abaddon came along. Someone in CCP must have figured well by the time of training an abaddon someone probably has maxed fitting and cap skills, and controlled bursts so maybe we can get away with not giving it the standard amarr cap use bonus (and at the time there was plenty of noise on the forums about not losing a bonus to cap use) and it worked.

As to the Oracle, yeah, disappointing that the cap use is there again. However, having a size larger gun sorta necessitates it.

Not that it matters, because these things are coming to us, I think another BC was not needed. Maybe CCP was just responding to all the stupid threads of people wanting faction/pirate or new tech II BCs, which were really just moar Draek caek pleez threads . We're getting these things. Hopefully they do some alterations to not have these things step further on HACs and other ships. I think CCP is doing this wrong having tech III cruisers and now tier 3 BCs almost obsoleting HACs, Recons, and Command ships. Oh well.

Honestly, it's the only way to examine the matter. Bonuses, as written on the ship description, are just words. The ability of the ship in game is the only thing that matters. In fact, if the ship itself is balanced and usable, then having "weak" bonuses is arguably a good thing, as it means that not having the relevant skills at V results in a level of performance closer to the skills-at-V level at which it was balanced. A suitable example here would be the Absolution, which requires the timesink of CS V to get the most out of those double damage bonuses.

As it stands, the Oracle is inferior to the Tornado but considerably better than the Talos or Naga. Being the second-best ship in class is not a strong bargaining position when demanding a boost - which is exactly what you're doing.

You're absolutely right. If a ship is balanced, all is well (hopefully). I'm not commenting on if or how the Talos and Naga are inferior, or if the Tornado is the best... I'm simply saying that the capacitor use 'bonus' is pretty lame. Maybe it has been used as an easy way out for the developers to make things balanced, maybe not. My point is that if it was or is a way to keep things balanced, it's a pretty boring and lame way to do so. I think that most people who like the game they play want improvements, always; it's not fun to settle for less - I like this game so I care about good changes.

One way to actually have it be a bonus, as I mention above in another of my posts, is to actually make it a bonus - meaning it actually lowers laser turret cap usage to levels equal-ish of lower cap usage turrets.

A geddon is, very likely, is going to be brawling in a smaller sized engagement. That geddon WILL be using a heavy cap booster anyway, regardless of the bonus. A 4 minute fight is actually a long time; far more times than not, a geddon (designed to kill fast or be killed) is going to end the fight a lot faster than 4 minutes.



This is a good point. I think many agree that blasters are problematic, though. Additionally, giving blasters that kind of optimal is a bit ridiculous. This comparison, of having the capacitor use bonus lower cap drainage by lasers to that of other lower use turrets, to giving blasters extremely good range is a bit exaggerated. Nonetheless, I would prefer a large discrepancy with the bonus, if it's going to be on every darn useful Amarr ship- i.e. no capacitor bonus = losses cap extremely fast v. capacitor bonus = very useful.

There has been confirmation of everything that I've listed. See this thread for CCP confirmation - it also has other great stuff that's coming in the Winter Expansion and the months following it: Winter Expansion Details

The new CCP development update video on youtube explains the missing turrets effect in further detail, fyi. Basically, only your client can see the miss visual of a turret shooting you and only the client of the player shooting you can see his turret missing visually. In other words, if I'm shooting your ceptor with an Apoc and missing, I will be able to see it miss, and you will too - but others that are on grid will not; for them, it will be the current visual. Also, he mentions, unfortunately, it might stay on Sisi until a couple months after the official release of the Winter Expansion.