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Carebears Unite! and lets hit the goons from behind!

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#861 - 2013-07-26 10:49:37 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox?

I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want. But you can hang around empty systems anywhere, so it makes absolutely no difference. It's not something new to hang around in VFK trying to harass goons, but you guys are choosing to do it at a time when even the goons won't be there. It's completely pointless.
That and the fact that it's being orchestrated by an idiot and will probably result in you being killed by a random pipebomb before even getting to VFK destroys any ability for it to be a statement to anyone.
I'm coming in here because I'm bored and don't have access to EVE during the day. Seeing you guys threatening empty space is pretty amusing.

I just want to pick out one point: "it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play"
It's not dangerous is it though. The only danger is getting down here, then it's empty space. If you are really after danger, then fly down to Fountain, stage in an NPC station (there are a few) and launch micro attacks on people from there. You get to shoot a lot and may even get some good kills in as there's often frigates traveling around. That would be fun and dangerous.


the system is not empty, there are many haulers going back and forth as well as people going to ratting areas from VFK, not sure why you keep repeating it like a jumping cd... we want to be in VFK because its your main hub and we get some easy targets, we are partly new players to gain some experience, how pigheaded are you, that you don't get this easy explanation although we mentioned it over 100 times now?

Bullshit! I've seen your kills and I've even been there watching the system. You've killed 1 PI hauler, the other 2 were both cynos. the only thing jumping in and out are capitals. They jump in, pick up the **** they need, then jump back down to fountain.
You can't tell us where our main hub is lol. Yes VFK is considered the center of goons. But at the moment EVERYONE IS DEPLOYED. I've mentioned that a considerable number of times. this means EVERYONE IS IN FOUNTAIN. I've mentioned that too. All your killboards show are cyno pilot and the occasional shitfit ship. I get what you are trying to do, but again, it's pointless.

Thank **** it's nearly the 28th so all these noobs will realise it was all a bunch of BS and a way for you to get donations for "prizes" which probably won't be given out, then we can stop listening to you incessant childlike whining.



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Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#862 - 2013-07-26 10:52:58 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Alpheias wrote:


So, how is that doomsday of yours coming along?


in their minds they are already doomed, we just have to confirm this with some more shipkills in reality Cool


I don't think anyone in Goons, think that they are anywhere near being doomed, least of all by someone like you.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#863 - 2013-07-26 10:59:42 UTC
"you're doing it the wrong way if you think what you're doing will have any sort of impact"

"no you're doomed Twisted"

"we're really not"

"see guys they're clearly scared otherwise they wouldn't be posting in this thread Twisted"

"but seriously try doing these things instead"

"doesn't work on me goonie Twisted"

"christ whatever i'm done with you"

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#864 - 2013-07-26 11:00:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Lucas Kell wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox?

I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want. But you can hang around empty systems anywhere, so it makes absolutely no difference. It's not something new to hang around in VFK trying to harass goons, but you guys are choosing to do it at a time when even the goons won't be there. It's completely pointless.
That and the fact that it's being orchestrated by an idiot and will probably result in you being killed by a random pipebomb before even getting to VFK destroys any ability for it to be a statement to anyone.
I'm coming in here because I'm bored and don't have access to EVE during the day. Seeing you guys threatening empty space is pretty amusing.

I just want to pick out one point: "it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play"
It's not dangerous is it though. The only danger is getting down here, then it's empty space. If you are really after danger, then fly down to Fountain, stage in an NPC station (there are a few) and launch micro attacks on people from there. You get to shoot a lot and may even get some good kills in as there's often frigates traveling around. That would be fun and dangerous.


the system is not empty, there are many haulers going back and forth as well as people going to ratting areas from VFK, not sure why you keep repeating it like a jumping cd... we want to be in VFK because its your main hub and we get some easy targets, we are partly new players to gain some experience, how pigheaded are you, that you don't get this easy explanation although we mentioned it over 100 times now?

Bullshit! I've seen your kills and I've even been there watching the system. You've killed 1 PI hauler, the other 2 were both cynos. the only thing jumping in and out are capitals. They jump in, pick up the **** they need, then jump back down to fountain.
You can't tell us where our main hub is lol. Yes VFK is considered the center of goons. But at the moment EVERYONE IS DEPLOYED. I've mentioned that a considerable number of times. this means EVERYONE IS IN FOUNTAIN. I've mentioned that too. All your killboards show are cyno pilot and the occasional shitfit ship. I get what you are trying to do, but again, it's pointless.

Thank **** it's nearly the 28th so all these noobs will realise it was all a bunch of BS and a way for you to get donations for "prizes" which probably won't be given out, then we can stop listening to you incessant childlike whining.





you fear the truth kid, our russian friends shot down an obelisk in VFK just days ago, they shot down your haulers every day, some tengu and other ratting ships, I alone have at least 4 haulers on my killboard, and more will follow... don't be scared I will make it quick it won't hurt... just sit tight and hold hands out there with your goonfriends, you are to weak to fight them we all know that... but we are different

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#865 - 2013-07-26 11:00:22 UTC  |  Edited by: SKINE DMZ
Lucas Kell wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Symolian couldn't be more right, and mr lucas you still don't understand, it doesnt have to be a statement to the goons, it can be a statement to the highsec carebears or even to yourself, knowing that even the "biggest" alliance in game does not scare you, you are free to do how you wish in this game, and that makes it a very enjoyable experience. We don't care about losing ships, or killing them, it's fun to go out there and do dangerous play, thats it. You goons coming in here saying "ooh but it wont work and it has no effect and do you even know?" just means you guys are too silly to understand and are ruining your own game as don't you all want it to be a sandbox?

I do understand. You want to show everyone that you can do what you want.

You don't, I am not trying to show anything to anyone, I am simply having fun and proofing myself you can do anything in this game no matter what people tell you. I can't speak for the other carebears involved in this (and I actually think many of them take this too seriously), but it is simply just a bit of fun.

edit I also won't be doing this doomday thing, I much prefer going out there by myself without actually trying to achieve anything P

I disagree
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#866 - 2013-07-26 11:02:29 UTC
Andski wrote:
"you're doing it the wrong way if you think what you're doing will have any sort of impact"

"no you're doomed Twisted"

"we're really not"

"see guys they're clearly scared otherwise they wouldn't be posting in this thread Twisted"

"but seriously try doing these things instead"

"doesn't work on me goonie Twisted"

"christ whatever i'm done with you"


Getting to the point of this?

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#867 - 2013-07-26 11:06:42 UTC
its so funny, all those alliances out there putting their nose into the goons ass, holding hands with them and stuff, all too scared to fight, and those guys speak the loudest here, telling us how badass they are, oh boy...

that flowerpower out there needs to end...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#868 - 2013-07-26 11:08:01 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
you fear the truth kid, our russian friends shot down an obelisk in VFK just days ago, they shot down your haulers every day, some tengu and other ratting ships, I alone have at least 4 haulers on my killboard, and more will follow... don't be scared I will make it quick it won't hurt... just sit tight and hold hands out there with your goonfriends, you are to weak to fight them we all know that... but we are different


wow you've killed four haulers in the span of like 2 months

congratulations

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symolan
BamBam Inc.
#869 - 2013-07-26 11:09:04 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:

The statement says nothing as it has no effect. All it does is keep a bunch of noobs out of highsec for a day while they fail at traversing through null. Goons aren't even going to be there. So how is it a statement to the goons?


Well as I said, I don't expect it to have any impact on much, but...

I've started Eve some years ago for a few weeks and came back few weeks back... after I've seen this thread, I noticed that I'm in grave danger to become too carebearish (the ISK-fixation in this game is seductive (? not native speaker).

So I let myself be inspired a little, fitted a frig and went through 0. It's not as hard traversing thru that space as I expected... and as you seem to think according to the quote. Yeah there were some bubbles and camps but as CCP gave us cloaking that didn't lead to a loss.

I won't Corp out of personal reasons (wifes can be special...)

but I'm currently trying to find a way to find a use of 0, even if it's solo there must be a way to use that whole space (what waste otherwise, also I feel entitled to be there as long as I'm not sent back).

Regarding the statement to the goons. Statements do not have to have a direct impact. Sometimes it's enought it was made (Galilei?).

And I guess there are more than a single statement the guys want to make here. And most I guess not directed to the goons. But directed at the carebears.

The short time I'm back and reading the forums they gave me the impression that in 0 there's only death for a solo player. Via the ISK-fixation I would assume that many people (solo's, of which there seem to be a surprising lot here, also as I at least find it harder here to socialize than in other MMO's; you don't meet people too often by surprise or in a different way and when there's always the paranoia...) will have been deterred of heading out there.

I also read how Null wants players to leave HS and come there... but I get the impression that holds only true if they join corp X or Y.

Why is that? (I do have a suspicion... imagine half the solo's roaming thru null.... Nullbears wouldn't dare to undock for weeks... again, not confirmed, just my impression after processing available info)

I at least am planning to be an annoying neut that does a touristic tour through all of Eve.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#870 - 2013-07-26 11:13:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
Andski wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
you fear the truth kid, our russian friends shot down an obelisk in VFK just days ago, they shot down your haulers every day, some tengu and other ratting ships, I alone have at least 4 haulers on my killboard, and more will follow... don't be scared I will make it quick it won't hurt... just sit tight and hold hands out there with your goonfriends, you are to weak to fight them we all know that... but we are different


wow you've killed four haulers in the span of like 2 months

congratulations


thanks for your attention... 51 ships i killed, 300 million in gooncapital gone bust, just by me one 3month old player, just wait and see what will become out of this within a year, with more players to join...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#871 - 2013-07-26 11:16:37 UTC
^ you are inviting them to think of you as an idiot when you say you have spent a month killing 300m worth of gear, at least say you are doing it for your own fun let's be honest

I disagree
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#872 - 2013-07-26 11:19:30 UTC
SKINE DMZ wrote:
^ you are inviting them to think of you as an idiot when you say you have spent a month killing 300m worth of gear, at least say you are doing it for your own fun let's be honest


SKINE you are the only idiot now, I'm in the game for 3 month, don't you get the difference? I'm completely happy with the impact i do, if all new players did the same, they would have bilions of damage, speak for yourself but not for me, thanks

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#873 - 2013-07-26 11:25:20 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
thanks for your attention... 51 ships i killed, 300 million in gooncapital gone bust, just by me one 3month old player, just wait and see what will become out of this within a year with more players to join...


51 kills with an average value of 6m is nothing and 300 million isk of damage in an entire month is absolutely nothing, even for a 3 month old player

if you killed maybe 5b in a month that'd be impressive, but you'd have to kill something other than cynos

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Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#874 - 2013-07-26 11:37:03 UTC

I'd like to point out that the killboards set the total amount of isk destroyed at 0.15B this month for young mister Harry.

The 300M quoted is a slightly inflated grand total balance (0.28B) achieved over the course of two (2) months.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#875 - 2013-07-26 11:38:15 UTC
Andski wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
thanks for your attention... 51 ships i killed, 300 million in gooncapital gone bust, just by me one 3month old player, just wait and see what will become out of this within a year with more players to join...


51 kills with an average value of 6m is nothing and 300 million isk of damage in an entire month is absolutely nothing, even for a 3 month old player

if you killed maybe 5b in a month that'd be impressive, but you'd have to kill something other than cynos


why do you all care to tell me then? we all know that this is your game, you keep telling people they can not have influence to assure they don't even try, what will you do about it if we finally have hundreds of players cloaked up in VFK? some weeks ago you did tell me I would not bring a single carebear to VFK, on peak times we have been around 10 already including some russian guys who joined us for the fun...

relax dude, it takes time but it will happen... you got a problem and it won't go away, this movement will spread like cancer... you invited the pest to your hub, hop in with your fleet, we jump to our safespots you go we will snap some haulers, cool huh? :D

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#876 - 2013-07-26 11:39:50 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
^ you are inviting them to think of you as an idiot when you say you have spent a month killing 300m worth of gear, at least say you are doing it for your own fun let's be honest


SKINE you are the only idiot now, I'm in the game for 3 month, don't you get the difference? I'm completely happy with the impact i do, if all new players did the same, they would have bilions of damage, speak for yourself but not for me, thanks

you gotta learn to keep your cool bro Smile

I disagree
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#877 - 2013-07-26 11:41:01 UTC
Moneta Curran wrote:

I'd like to point out that the killboards set the total amount of isk destroyed at 0.15B this month for young mister Harry.

The 300M quoted is a slightly inflated grand total balance (0.28B) achieved over the course of two (2) months.



I did not mention 300m was done for 1 month, please read my post again

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#878 - 2013-07-26 11:42:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
SKINE DMZ wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
SKINE DMZ wrote:
^ you are inviting them to think of you as an idiot when you say you have spent a month killing 300m worth of gear, at least say you are doing it for your own fun let's be honest


SKINE you are the only idiot now, I'm in the game for 3 month, don't you get the difference? I'm completely happy with the impact i do, if all new players did the same, they would have bilions of damage, speak for yourself but not for me, thanks

you gotta learn to keep your cool bro Smile


better be cool yourself and use the bomber I gave you to shoot some stuff, did not see you around for some time...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
William Walker
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#879 - 2013-07-26 11:43:12 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
on peak times we have been around 10 already including some russian guys who joined us for the fun...

relax dude, it takes time but it will happen... you got a problem and it won't go away, this movement will spread like cancer... you invited the pest to your hub, hop in with your fleet, we jump to our safespots you go we will snap some haulers, cool huh? :D


You tell him Harry! Row row, fight the powa!

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Moneta Curran
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#880 - 2013-07-26 11:45:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Moneta Curran
Harry Forever wrote:
I did not mention 300m was done for 1 month, please read my post again


I know, this is just meant to keep our discourse clean.

It's also noteworthy that of out the 0.15B isk destroyed by Harry this month, the average worth of a single kill was 3.26M.

I would imagine that a large part of the value of these kills is derived from the cost of the single cynosural field generator typically fitted, the supply of which must be running dangerously low due to his fearsome vendetta.