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New dev blog: Ship-troduction: The Caldari Naga

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Gustav Knuttsen
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#181 - 2011-11-07 12:45:33 UTC
Well this design sucks. Looks like orca ! but rotated LOL.

Hybrids sucks and will be sucking so Caldari friends fight for any missiles !! Otherwise you are doomed and got yet another almost playable ship. !! Caldari and Gallente are ******* orphans with these stupid hybrids ... But fight brothers ! Caldari will raise ! ehh maybe :)
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#182 - 2011-11-07 14:57:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Whiite
Love the look.

Will I fly it, probably not if that "talos"clip on youtube is the standard. 5% armor Tornado attacks the naga and destroys is without the Naga being able to hit it.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuf_JzAkq7E[/url]

And then there are people who complain Caldari pilots only fly drakes
Major Spag
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#183 - 2011-11-07 15:41:29 UTC
After trying this out, I can say that the Naga will not be useful in fleet battles. Tracking on Rails is not enough to warrant flying them in fleet battles unless you mount at least 2-3 tracking computers. Even then, sniping fleets are way too passe to be useful in modern battles. As always, torpedo's are not useful for anything but POS shoots or hotdropping onto caps.

What I did find it useful for is belt ratting. The speed plus the ability to fling torps at 24km chews through belt rats like candy. It doesn't have the tank for anomalies which is a shame but I don't consider that a down side.
Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
#184 - 2011-11-07 18:18:16 UTC
So now that all these nice looking ships are out, when are we going to see more info and Stats on these ship? It'll be nice to see what bonuses these get.

Good work! Big smile

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Ky Vatta
Majority 12
#185 - 2011-11-07 22:01:33 UTC
Naga = Not as good as (the others)

Its like a spacedock with guns

CCP please please please get a better design, as this one is total FAIL
Mordecai Heller
Offstation Fund Administration
#186 - 2011-11-08 21:10:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Mordecai Heller
It's so beautiful!

I don't care if it turns out to be a terribad pvp ship, I will take that ship and fly it forever! Hope one day launcher models will arrive, it really suits them.
Princess Cellestia
Friendship is Podding
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#187 - 2011-11-09 00:43:50 UTC
If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#188 - 2011-11-09 09:41:05 UTC
Princess Cellestia wrote:
If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses.


no
just give it +1 +1 bonuses for rails and torps , also make them as speedy/agile as the others
Ripperljohn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#189 - 2011-11-09 13:45:56 UTC
Naomi Knight wrote:
Princess Cellestia wrote:
If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses.


no
just give it +1 +1 bonuses for rails and torps , also make them as speedy/agile as the others



the naga is funnily enough already the most agile one, it's like speeding around in a ruppy.

-rail +torp bonus pls
Vincent Gaines
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#190 - 2011-11-09 14:18:03 UTC
Princess Cellestia wrote:
If CCP removed the hybrid stuff from the naga and beefed up the torp bonuses this thing would be awesome. But so far its weak as hell with torps. And why put blasters on it when you can just use a Talos and get much more dps. Looks like caldari is going to be the redheaded stepchild of the Tier 3s due to the split bonuses.

I agree but you forgot hybrids include blasters and rails.

Caldari have always had a split system, rails and missiles.

I agree, one or the other to give a 2nd bonus. Another missile ship I guess.

No fix to rails, a waste of SP on rail spec.

Not a diplo. 

The above post was edited for spelling.

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Wychwood and Wells
Beer needs you
#191 - 2011-11-10 07:49:04 UTC
Tried the naga on sisi with torps ................... failed!

Expected abit more out of it and it doesnot deliver What?

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Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#192 - 2011-11-10 09:21:41 UTC
If you take a Drake, and fit it with a tank that is as abysmal as what you get with the Nag, you suddenly have plenty of slots available so you can get 800 or 900 dps with heavy assaults, which have a faster explosion velocity, and a smaller explosion radius... than the Nag will have with torps. ... and even doing this I think you'll have a better tank than the Nag... (25% to shield resists really boosts even a 2-slot shield tank with no DCU.)

so, as it stands, not much reason to pay for a Nag. when the Drake is superior in most situations... and near-enough to equal in the rest that it wouldn't matter.

Naga needs a boost if you want many folks to fly it.



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Usurpine
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#193 - 2011-11-10 09:44:07 UTC
I like the design.
Just it should use Cruise Missiles or Torps, not Railguns. Its Caldari. Caldari use Missiles, right ?
Tiger's Spirit
Perkone
Caldari State
#194 - 2011-11-10 10:10:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger's Spirit
Mike Whiite wrote:
Love the look.

Will I fly it, probably not if that "talos"clip on youtube is the standard. 5% armor Tornado attacks the naga and destroys is without the Naga being able to hit it.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuf_JzAkq7E[/url]

And then there are people who complain Caldari pilots only fly drakes


Yes we saw, when naga dont shot back Tornado could kill it.
We saw a Tornado could kill a sniper BS lol. Very hard kill,sure. :D

We saw Tornado is OP 1126 DPS with 3 gyro+hail. LOL
Who will using Naga without damage bonus ? No one. Furthermore the torpedos sux without target painter, can't damage with full power the small or fast ships. Can't shot afar like a drake.

Dont forget CCP why created Naga so useless, because they want to change the 0.0 drake fleets to gun fleets (tornado). Missile swarms just create lags, drones create lags, they dont want them. So, they just dont want to create another missile fleet for 0.0 fights.
Their own interest the important one. No one care players.
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#195 - 2011-11-10 11:44:24 UTC
Tiger's Spirit wrote:
[Yes we saw, when naga dont shot back Tornado could kill it.



If you look closely you see the combat log stating that the naga misses again and again
Potato IQ
Doomheim
#196 - 2011-11-10 16:21:52 UTC
Fantastic looking ship. All four look great, but this one does it for me. And I cross-trained to get out of Caldari ships god-damn you
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#197 - 2011-11-10 16:46:06 UTC
Potato IQ wrote:
Fantastic looking ship. All four look great, but this one does it for me. And I cross-trained to get out of Caldari ships god-damn you

yes looks as awesome as your face...
Jarem Sothra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#198 - 2011-11-11 08:11:14 UTC
Buzzmong wrote:
The Naga eh?

Can anyone at CCP enlighten me why they've stepped away from the avian names for Caldari? Especially with Naga being deity-like, surely that would have been a better fit with Gallente?


Don't forget, the Caldari Scorpion, Onyx(Latin for 'claw, and a rock snake from Pokemon)), Widow(obviously named for the deadly black widow, an arachnid), Rattlesnake, Drake(a type of dragon or a male duck), Ferox (Latin for 'fierce'), the Wyvern(a mythical winged reptile), etc, etc.

I believe they stepped outside the just avian naming for nature's predators (whether they are real or myth).
Potato IQ
Doomheim
#199 - 2011-11-11 08:57:52 UTC
Naomi Knight wrote:
Potato IQ wrote:
Fantastic looking ship. All four look great, but this one does it for me. And I cross-trained to get out of Caldari ships god-damn you

yes looks as awesome as your face...


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Venustas Blue
Spartan Industries
#200 - 2011-11-11 12:26:06 UTC
The oracle & Tornado are ok tank wise, not sure as of the talos, but I know for a fact the nagas tank is so bad, needs a buff straight away!