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Why can't I use a joystick to steer my spaceship?
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DART MOUTHE
Cloak and Daggers
The Initiative.
#1 - 2013-07-23 16:41:08 UTC
I've been wondering this since day 1 in EVE. Don't people find it annoying clicking random points in space to steer their ships? Why can't i plug in a flight sim joystick and use that? Seriously is it so much to ask?

I would actually play this game but I find the current way of navigating through space with a mouse tedious and unnecessary.

Joysticks would make manual orbits a breeze, just sayin.
Cipher Deninard
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-07-23 16:45:49 UTC
Don't find the current way annoying at all. I can safely say I think using a joystick would be more irritating.
Karsa Egivand
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-07-23 16:46:15 UTC
It could be done, but it wouldn't be what you'd expect.

Remember, Eve runs on 1-sec ticks. Any change of direction/vector you input with your joystick, would only be effective once a second.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#4 - 2013-07-23 16:46:18 UTC
DART MOUTHE wrote:
I've been wondering this since day 1 in EVE. Don't people find it annoying clicking random points in space to steer their ships? Why can't i plug in a flight sim joystick and use that? Seriously is it so much to ask?



Yes it is.

In EVE you are the captain of a ship, not it's pilot. Kirk, Janeway, Adama, picard, Dylan Hunt etc etc didn't use no stinkin joysticks.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#5 - 2013-07-23 16:48:51 UTC
Its not that type of game. Also with this many people playing the servers would have to be GODLY. At the moment the servers go by 1 Second ticks so it only checks every 1 second. Were it to go to joystick you would need to increase that to at least 0.1/2 second ticks.so thats a 10 times increase on server load. Imagine Lag or TiDi with a joystick, it would be unplayable.

Maybe in a few years when technology has increased there might be an option to fly say a frigate manually but as of this point its not technically possible without ruining a few things which make eve great.
Gaellia Bonaventure
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2013-07-23 16:50:08 UTC
DART MOUTHE wrote:
I've been wondering this since day 1 in EVE. Don't people find it annoying clicking random points in space to steer their ships? Why can't i plug in a flight sim joystick and use that? Seriously is it so much to ask?

I would actually play this game but I find the current way of navigating through space with a mouse tedious and unnecessary.

Joysticks would make manual orbits a breeze, just sayin.


Because in this game we click our way through space. It's not going to change. Enjoy, and fly, er, I mean, click safe! Big smile

Bring your possibles.
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2013-07-23 16:57:16 UTC
DART MOUTHE wrote:
I've been wondering this since day 1 in EVE. Don't people find it annoying clicking random points in space to steer their ships?


No.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-07-23 17:30:08 UTC
Because you command a ship, you don't fly it.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-07-23 17:53:57 UTC
Im tugging my joystick all the time but it does nothing to my ship plz help!
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#10 - 2013-07-23 17:57:21 UTC
All it took was 1 stupid useless scene in Star Trek: Insurrection and everyone wants to use a joystick to pilot giant space submarines.


Also, joystick piloting doesn't work well with the server tick system currently used.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#11 - 2013-07-23 18:02:51 UTC
Posting in a stealth "Star Citizen will kill Eve" thread.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#12 - 2013-07-23 18:13:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Bienator II
because joystick doesn't have F1

but the real answer is that CCP didn't have the balls to change anything on the core flight mechanics so far. The collision detection is probably unchanged since release.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Thebriwan
LUX Uls Xystus
#13 - 2013-07-23 18:17:28 UTC
Does any of the "you are only the captain of the ship" sayer knows anything about EVE lore?

As a capsuleer you command every aspect of the ship. Sitting in your capsule, you are not only the captain, but also the pilot, the weapon systems officer and many things more. The crew just does very low level tasks.
Jorden Ishonen
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-07-23 18:24:48 UTC
OP, I think you should be keeping an eye on EVR.
RomeStar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-07-23 18:25:44 UTC
I play with my joystick all the time adding another one would only interfere with my internet p0rn.

Signatured removed, CCP Phantom
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#16 - 2013-07-23 18:28:25 UTC
Jorden Ishonen wrote:
OP, I think you should be keeping an eye on EVR.


Nope, EVE VR will obviously use mind control techniques. It's the future!
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#17 - 2013-07-23 18:30:45 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
DART MOUTHE wrote:
I've been wondering this since day 1 in EVE. Don't people find it annoying clicking random points in space to steer their ships? Why can't i plug in a flight sim joystick and use that? Seriously is it so much to ask?



Yes it is.

In EVE you are the captain of a ship, not it's pilot. Kirk, Janeway, Adama, picard, Dylan Hunt etc etc didn't use no stinkin joysticks.


Uh, but Riker sure as hell did!

MANUAL MODE ACTIVATE!!!1

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#18 - 2013-07-23 18:40:48 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
DART MOUTHE wrote:
I've been wondering this since day 1 in EVE. Don't people find it annoying clicking random points in space to steer their ships? Why can't i plug in a flight sim joystick and use that? Seriously is it so much to ask?



Yes it is.

In EVE you are the captain of a ship, not it's pilot. Kirk, Janeway, Adama, picard, Dylan Hunt etc etc didn't use no stinkin joysticks.


Uh, but Riker sure as hell did!

MANUAL MODE ACTIVATE!!!1


And then he crashed! Evidence that Joysticks are bad! Cool
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
#19 - 2013-07-23 18:42:12 UTC
Wait, did the Enterprise crash in that move? That was Insurrection, right? I thought they crashed in Generations. P

Either way Insurrection sucked so proof not to use joysticks. Lol

You make a valid point, good Sir or Madam. 
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#20 - 2013-07-23 18:48:55 UTC
Kijo Rikki wrote:
Wait, did the Enterprise crash in that move? That was Insurrection, right? I thought they crashed in Generations. P

Either way Insurrection sucked so proof not to use joysticks. Lol

some say it wasn't the joystic rather the female helmsman.

how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
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