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EVE and Steam

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Vladimir Fleetfieth
Red Dragon Imperial
#1 - 2013-07-20 13:51:33 UTC
Hi,

I am curious how to link my EVE Account up to my Steam Account, since the games is available on Steam anyways.

Cheers,
Fleetfieth

Gutting the Federation, from inside out.

Verran 'Firefox' Severasse
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-07-20 14:04:05 UTC
Vladimir Fleetfieth wrote:
Hi,

I am curious how to link my EVE Account up to my Steam Account, since the games is available on Steam anyways.

Cheers,
Fleetfieth


You can't. Please search the forums. We have literally answered this like twice. In order to have EVE on Steam you have to buy it on Steam. You know why? Because it isn't a Steamworks game. Plenty of games still do this...so please don't whine about it for no reason. You don't need the cards. They give you absolutely no advantage.
SquirlRuler Cadelanne
Guilliman Initiative
#3 - 2013-07-20 14:32:25 UTC
Verran 'Firefox' Severasse wrote:
Vladimir Fleetfieth wrote:
Hi,

I am curious how to link my EVE Account up to my Steam Account, since the games is available on Steam anyways.

Cheers,
Fleetfieth


You can't. Please search the forums. We have literally answered this like twice. In order to have EVE on Steam you have to buy it on Steam. You know why? Because it isn't a Steamworks game. Plenty of games still do this...so please don't whine about it for no reason. You don't need the cards. They give you absolutely no advantage.


You could have just posted a link to another thread that answered it...

Slipping steadily into madness; now that is the only place to be free.

Rutkowski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-07-20 15:33:43 UTC
I'm curious about this myself.

I was on 21 day free trial and i bought the game through steam. I only have one account for this game. I don't remember how this happened.

can it work if you use up the 21 day free trial then a few days later buy the game through steam?
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#5 - 2013-07-20 19:00:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Verran 'Firefox' Severasse wrote:
Vladimir Fleetfieth wrote:
Hi,

I am curious how to link my EVE Account up to my Steam Account, since the games is available on Steam anyways.

Cheers,
Fleetfieth


You can't. Please search the forums. We have literally answered this like twice. In order to have EVE on Steam you have to buy it on Steam. You know why? Because it isn't a Steamworks game. Plenty of games still do this...so please don't whine about it for no reason. You don't need the cards. They give you absolutely no advantage.



Same game, just using a different distribution method so please, stop claiming it's a DIFFERENT game, they all log into the same universe using the SAME client. It is just the LAUNCHER that handles steamworks.

And for your information Cards have a REAL monetary value and can be SOLD for REAL MONEY so YES, it is important to some of us.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2013-07-20 19:03:09 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Same game, just using a different distribution method so please, stop claiming it's a DIFFERENT game
…which he never did to begin with. What?
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#7 - 2013-07-20 19:04:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Tippia wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Same game, just using a different distribution method so please, stop claiming it's a DIFFERENT game
…which he never did to begin with. What?



Quote:

Because it isn't a Steamworks game


and

Quote:

In order to have EVE on Steam you have to buy it on Steam


It was IMPLIED by this statement.

Other people have also made comments that it is a DIFFERENT game in my other Steam threads.


Only the LAUNCHER is different and steamworks enabled. The client is the SAME for all of us.

Since Eve is a SUBSCRIPTION based game, there should be no problem with CCP allowing us to have it on steam by using the stemworks enabled launcher features.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2013-07-20 19:13:12 UTC
Miilla wrote:
It was IMPLIED by this statement.
No, it really wasn't.
He said that the client you download from CCP is not connected in any way to Steamworks. Just because you have two publishing mechanisms doesn't mean they're different games — only that they are tied to different retailers.

Quote:
Other people have also made comments that it is a DIFFERENT game in my other Steam threads.
That's their problem.

Quote:
Since Eve is a SUBSCRIPTION based game, there should be no problem with CCP allowing us to have it on steam by using the stemworks enabled launcher features.
Since you didn't get the game from Steam, there will be lots of problem since Steam don't know about (and don't care about) your CCP account. CCP, on their part, can't allow anything on a Valve's network because… well… it's Valve's network.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#9 - 2013-07-20 19:45:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
Tippia wrote:
Miilla wrote:
It was IMPLIED by this statement.
No, it really wasn't.
He said that the client you download from CCP is not connected in any way to Steamworks. Just because you have two publishing mechanisms doesn't mean they're different games — only that they are tied to different retailers.

Quote:
Other people have also made comments that it is a DIFFERENT game in my other Steam threads.
That's their problem.

Quote:
Since Eve is a SUBSCRIPTION based game, there should be no problem with CCP allowing us to have it on steam by using the stemworks enabled launcher features.
Since you didn't get the game from Steam, there will be lots of problem since Steam don't know about (and don't care about) your CCP account. CCP, on their part, can't allow anything on a Valve's network because… well… it's Valve's network.


Which is what we are trying to change.


You should run for CSM as you would make a good mouthpeice for CCP as that is what you are doing.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2013-07-20 19:50:54 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Which is what we are trying to change.
How do you propose to do that? Make Valve buy CCP?
Verran 'Firefox' Severasse
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-07-20 20:34:20 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Which is what we are trying to change.
How do you propose to do that? Make Valve buy CCP?



I think it's best if we just ignore the tools. They clearly don't understand what it means for a game to be a Steamworks game. If they even knew how google operated they'd be able to figure it out.
Leto Kirhan
Chupacabra's Corporation
#12 - 2013-07-20 23:09:30 UTC
Miilla wrote:

And for your information Cards have a REAL monetary value and can be SOLD for REAL MONEY so YES, it is important to some of us.

It's funny, but those numbers that you can see in the upper right corner of the Steam window is no longer real money by the way. It's like ISK, only Steam ISK. With this "money" you can buy "PLEX" to use some pixels and only in Steam. But these cards have a value, it's true.
Abdulla Isayev
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-07-20 23:53:19 UTC
Games > Add a Non-Steam Game to my Library > Browse > CCP > EVE > bin > ExeFile > Rename ExeFile in Steam to EVE Online > Open EVE Online from the Library
CCP Sunset
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2013-07-21 17:30:20 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Sunset
Hey guys, seems like a few of you already have this covered with some advice here but just to clarify, it is not currently possible to link and existing EVE Online account, trial or otherwise with Steam.

If you make a new purchase through Steam this will create a shiny brand new account that is linked to your Steam login, in order to use this new account you simply need to log into the Steam client and launch EVE Online, you should be immediately logged in using your private Steam details. Please note that you would not be able to use the regular EVE launcher to log in as your account is tied to Steam.

Rutkowski wrote:
I'm curious about this myself.

I was on 21 day free trial and i bought the game through steam. I only have one account for this game. I don't remember how this happened.

can it work if you use up the 21 day free trial then a few days later buy the game through steam?


Offers through Steam cannot be combined with the Buddy Program, in part because Steam cannot be used to upgrade any trial account. In the past Steam offered game time in a different format, CD-keys that could be used to upgrade trial accounts however this is not an eligible payment method to use with the Buddy offer and would not grant a reward to the inviter.
(EDIT) - CD-keys are no longer offered through Steam, as above when you make a purchase through Steam this will create a new account and can't be used in any way with a trial.

I hope this clears up some of the main issues, CCP Spitfire made a lovely Dev Blog about EVE on Steam that you can find here:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-on-steam-past-present-and-future/

If you have any more problems or questions about your specific account then please file a support ticket in-game, from the website or by emailing [email protected]

European Associate Sales Specialist, Presenter: EVE TV, tea enthusiast.

TigerXtrm
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-07-21 18:38:34 UTC
CCP Sunset wrote:
Please note that you would not be able to use the regular EVE launcher to log in as your account is tied to Steam.


So how is it that I can launch EVE through Steam just like I normally would and log in through the launcher, like I normally would? Don't claim something is not possible when it very clearly is.

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#16 - 2013-07-21 18:39:00 UTC
CCP Sunset wrote:
Hey guys, seems like a few of you already have this covered with some advice here but just to clarify, it is not currently possible to link and existing EVE Online account, trial or otherwise with Steam.

If you make a new purchase through Steam this will create a shiny brand new account that is linked to your Steam login, in order to use this new account you simply need to log into the Steam client and launch EVE Online, you should be immediately logged in using your private Steam details. Please note that you would not be able to use the regular EVE launcher to log in as your account is tied to Steam.

Rutkowski wrote:
I'm curious about this myself.

I was on 21 day free trial and i bought the game through steam. I only have one account for this game. I don't remember how this happened.

can it work if you use up the 21 day free trial then a few days later buy the game through steam?


Offers through Steam cannot be combined with the Buddy Program, in part because Steam cannot be used to upgrade any trial account. In the past Steam offered game time in a different format, CD-keys that could be used to upgrade trial accounts however this is not an eligible payment method to use with the Buddy offer and would not grant a reward to the inviter.
(EDIT) - CD-keys are no longer offered through Steam, as above when you make a purchase through Steam this will create a new account and can't be used in any way with a trial.

I hope this clears up some of the main issues, CCP Spitfire made a lovely Dev Blog about EVE on Steam that you can find here:

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-on-steam-past-present-and-future/

If you have any more problems or questions about your specific account then please file a support ticket in-game, from the website or by emailing [email protected]



The 14 day trial on Steam for Eve is no longer available, care to comment on that?
CCP Sunset
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2013-07-21 18:47:41 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
CCP Sunset wrote:
Please note that you would not be able to use the regular EVE launcher to log in as your account is tied to Steam.


So how is it that I can launch EVE through Steam just like I normally would and log in through the launcher, like I normally would? Don't claim something is not possible when it very clearly is.



Apologies for any confusion, your EVE / Steam account cannot be used with the normal stand alone launcher, it is necessary to be logged into your Steam client in order to access an EVE account created through Steam.

Previously it was possible to create a trial account through Steam and this would give you a "demo" version of the client linked in your Steam library. You may still have this within your Steam account, however if you are using an account created through Steam in the 'new' way then this version of the launcher would not necessarily help you to log in.

European Associate Sales Specialist, Presenter: EVE TV, tea enthusiast.

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#18 - 2013-07-21 18:48:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
CCP Sunset wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
CCP Sunset wrote:
Please note that you would not be able to use the regular EVE launcher to log in as your account is tied to Steam.


So how is it that I can launch EVE through Steam just like I normally would and log in through the launcher, like I normally would? Don't claim something is not possible when it very clearly is.



Apologies for any confusion, your EVE / Steam account cannot be used with the normal stand alone launcher, it is necessary to be logged into your Steam client in order to access an EVE account created through Steam.

Previously it was possible to create a trial account through Steam and this would give you a "demo" version of the client linked in your Steam library. You may still have this within your Steam account, however if you are using an account created through Steam in the 'new' way then this version of the launcher would not necessarily help you to log in.


I tried to create a trial account on steam, but it is not possible now without a purchase. The Trial demo option is no longer available on steam.

Perhaps you should actually test this before claiming trial demos exist on steam.
CCP Sunset
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2013-07-21 18:53:27 UTC
Miilla wrote:
The 14 day trial on Steam for Eve is no longer available, care to comment on that?


I must admit that I wasn't directly involved in the rolling out of EVE on Steam so it is very difficult for me to state categorically why the trial version is no longer available on Steam.

However, as it is not possible to use your Steam purchase to upgrade a trial it would seem to be that having a trial available through Steam could be quite misleading and cause some confusion. We would always try to make the process of purchasing your account to be as straightforward as possible and this seems like a practical way to remove what could be the source of much confusion for our pilots.

You can of course create a 14 day trial directly from the EVE Online site: https://www.eveonline.com/start/

Make use of the Buddy Program: http://community.eveonline.com/support/knowledge-base/article.aspx?articleId=58

Or various other trial offers which are sometimes available through special events and promotions.

European Associate Sales Specialist, Presenter: EVE TV, tea enthusiast.

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#20 - 2013-07-21 18:54:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Miilla
CCP Sunset wrote:
Miilla wrote:
The 14 day trial on Steam for Eve is no longer available, care to comment on that?


I must admit that I wasn't directly involved in the rolling out of EVE on Steam so it is very difficult for me to state categorically why the trial version is no longer available on Steam.

However, as it is not possible to use your Steam purchase to upgrade a trial it would seem to be that having a trial available through Steam could be quite misleading and cause some confusion. We would always try to make the process of purchasing your account to be as straightforward as possible and this seems like a practical way to remove what could be the source of much confusion for our pilots.

You can of course create a 14 day trial directly from the EVE Online site: https://www.eveonline.com/start/

Make use of the Buddy Program: http://community.eveonline.com/support/knowledge-base/article.aspx?articleId=58

Or various other trial offers which are sometimes available through special events and promotions.


I wish to create it on steam thanks, it appears in the steam product search but now it links to the paid product. No trial, no demo, no money. Thanks.

Looks like another underhanded trick by CCP, perhaps somebody who does know about Steam and Eve at CCP should comment on it.
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