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Missle and Drone boats so what are some good rocket boats?

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Faux Leon
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-07-19 13:55:46 UTC
Hello and thank you everyone for taking the time to read or reply to this should you choose to do such.



Noob here, a title I'm finally just accepting rather than pointlessly fighting, and I'm wondering about all this stuff I keep seeing about rockets, missles and drones. I've used all of them, but I personally find rockets to my fancy. Lasers are cool, but I think I like rockets and wanna get some good advice. I've heard of drone boats and missle boats like the drake and some other stuff. I don't completely get that. What makes it a boat for a particular weapon system? Is it the bonuses it gets for that system or something else? I mainly spec drones right now, but thinking rockets might be funner after some reading. So that being said are there any good ships for rockets, like destroyer size or frigate size? How about mechanics? What are good ways to utilize rockets in combat like PvP? What?



Thanks again for any help Big smile

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Jani Padecain
Panama Investment Bank
#2 - 2013-07-19 14:13:25 UTC
Have a look into Vengeance. Really good Amarr t2 frig with nice cap bonus (Makes active tanking easier) and some extra DPS from rockets.

Rockets is good weapon system when you are facing a AC or blaster boat. If you can maintain range between 7km - 10km your enemys damage is anemic and you hit his hull with your wpn systems full force.

Tricky part is to come up with a fit what makes you dictate range and not sacriface to much of your ships strengts. I recomend to put in a AB, web, scram, neut into untility high, full rack of rocket launchers and active armor tank.

Neut in utility high is your so cold backup module incase your foe has you pinpointed and you wana deactivate his web and pull some range..

Hope this helpfull.

Ps. Trie to stay away from kiting ships..
Faux Leon
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-07-19 14:32:42 UTC
Jani Padecain wrote:
Ps. Trie to stay away from kiting ships..



What are kiting ships?

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-07-19 15:17:03 UTC
What is with expensive ships and these forums?

For the love of God please do not use T2 ships if you are a newbie.


Frigate:
[Kestrel, RegularRocket]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Ballistic Control System II

Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I

Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket

Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

Orbit at 7k and unload everything.

Destroyer:
[Corax, RocketAB]
F85 Peripheral Damage System I
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I
Small Ancillary Current Router I


Jani Padecain
Panama Investment Bank
#5 - 2013-07-19 15:42:34 UTC
Faux Leon wrote:
Jani Padecain wrote:
Ps. Trie to stay away from kiting ships..



What are kiting ships?


Those are ships what uses velocity and long range as their benefit. They will run way and free fire on you while you trie to chace them down. Armor tanked frig with a afterburner will have a hard time to catch any kiting setups.

Also. Baron is right. T2 ships are expensive and more skill intensive but I hope you get the idea out of it.
Shahai Shintaro
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-07-19 17:24:19 UTC
I agree with Baron, but to answer part of your original question it's the hull that dictates what kind of boat it is. At its core, there are three weapon systems in the game: drones, turrets, and missiles. Turrets can then be divided further into projectiles, hybrids, and lasers. If the hull is a combat hull the bonuses will typically apply to one of these systems. Furthermore, each hull only has a certain amount of turret and missile hard points. This further declares a boat a missile or a turret ship.

Taking the drake as an example, the ship has 6 missile hard points and zero turret hard points. Further, it's weapon bonus from the hull applies to missiles so the drake is a missile boat.

Now I haven't mentioned rockets at all yet. That is because rockets is just the name of the small close range missile. On turret ships, it would be equivalent to light blasters or small autocannons. Anything that applies to missiles will apply to rockets.

Hope this helps
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#7 - 2013-07-19 17:40:52 UTC
Scram kite with a hookbill/condor, Brawl with a kestrel/hawk


But really, the coolest rocket boat will always be the Vengeance.

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Lee Hekard
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-07-19 18:19:47 UTC
Faux Leon wrote:
Jani Padecain wrote:
Ps. Trie to stay away from kiting ships..



What are kiting ships?


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nub.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#9 - 2013-07-19 18:36:30 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
But really, the coolest rocket boat will always be the Vengeance.


Rocket Vengeance with AAR.

Beautiful , sturdy and deadly.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Thermodynamics
#10 - 2013-07-19 21:22:39 UTC
MWD/Scram/Web Vengeance is the manliest frigate of all.

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone

Jani Padecain
Panama Investment Bank
#11 - 2013-07-19 22:27:37 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
MWD/Scram/Web Vengeance is the manliest frigate of all.


I prefer AB my self. I know I waste one of ship bonus by doing so but agains brawlers, AB setup is something what can really turn a tide.

MWD vengeance is still one of the slowest frigs in EVE. Base speed is in par with Hawk but armor tank makes it even more horrible. Skip those speedy things and concentrate to make other sides shine. Speed advantage is impossible to have while flying this thing.
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-07-19 22:31:55 UTC
Jani Padecain wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
MWD/Scram/Web Vengeance is the manliest frigate of all.


I prefer AB my self. I know I waste one of ship bonus by doing so but agains brawlers, AB setup is something what can really turn a tide.

MWD vengeance is still one of the slowest frigs in EVE. Base speed is in par with Hawk but armor tank makes it even more horrible. Skip those speedy things and concentrate to make other sides shine. Speed advantage is impossible to have while flying this thing.



Real men Dual prop :')
Jani Padecain
Panama Investment Bank
#13 - 2013-07-19 23:23:17 UTC
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Jani Padecain wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
MWD/Scram/Web Vengeance is the manliest frigate of all.


I prefer AB my self. I know I waste one of ship bonus by doing so but agains brawlers, AB setup is something what can really turn a tide.

MWD vengeance is still one of the slowest frigs in EVE. Base speed is in par with Hawk but armor tank makes it even more horrible. Skip those speedy things and concentrate to make other sides shine. Speed advantage is impossible to have while flying this thing.



Real men Dual prop :')


I´m bad in this game. Can´t make those fit. :D
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2013-07-20 00:02:14 UTC
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:
Jani Padecain wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
MWD/Scram/Web Vengeance is the manliest frigate of all.


I prefer AB my self. I know I waste one of ship bonus by doing so but agains brawlers, AB setup is something what can really turn a tide.

MWD vengeance is still one of the slowest frigs in EVE. Base speed is in par with Hawk but armor tank makes it even more horrible. Skip those speedy things and concentrate to make other sides shine. Speed advantage is impossible to have while flying this thing.



Real men Dual prop :')

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You don't dual prop a veng

You also don't AB prop a veng

Stop being awful. A veng should have mwd, no exceptions! >=[

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