Missions & Complexes

Yeah, I'd take all that out in a damn heartbeat. But a negative justification for something based on "yeah, but we also have these useless things" isn't exactly compelling.

Edit: I'm asking what it would add to the game because a) I think it's an important question, b) I think it's important to think about how new ideas play into an already highly saturated market, and c) because justifying time spent on new features is valid. I never once said it was a bad idea, I asked a question. Your answer, quite honestly, wasn't good. At least tell me it adds something new so we can argue about whether that something is good for the game as a whole.

And as for the salvage sites, we as salvagers, should have a site that uses our skills as well. They have a site for every other profession or subprofession (gas mining, hacking, data analyzing, combat) and mining anomalies (ice mining) etc. but no salvage sites? (Salvaging combat sites does not count since salvagers can just as easily salvage a mission for the same mediocre loot.) It would benefit the game and all salvagers since we would have a specialized area to use our expertise for the hope of a more lucrative drop.

These salvage sites are already in game, they are called incursions.

in these systems you can find large chunks of wreaks flying around for your leisure to stick your little mittens on them

I asked about this before and most people said that incursion rats don't give any decent salvage.

I've always considered those sites to be the domain of the Exploration profession. Having a site that requires scanning probes, but the use of a salvager, wouldn't change that. Also, I see those who salvage in a similar situation as those who play the markets... there isn't a special ship/site for them, but it's still a profession. The nice thing about both salvaging and playing markets is that it can be done everywhere... it's up to the player to recognize the opportunities and capitalize on them.

For me the salvaging profession was all about finding combat zones, tracking down combat pilots, negotiating salvage rights (getting a fleet invite), etc. When I first started I might not have received the ISK/hr of the combat pilot, but I was able to make significantly more than a combat pilot with similar skill points. As my skills increased I was able to expand my salvaging to more risky (and therefore more rewarding) environments.

While I've progressed further into exploration over the past few years, I still see many opportunities to utilize salvaging as a profession. Out in Null many people run anomalies, but are too busy to clean-up the wrecks. The more adventurous can clean-up after PvP engagements.


I don't really think there is a need for a special area for salvaging. That's one of the great things about the salvaging profession... you can do it everywhere. Just because someone trains a skill a few levels don't really given them "expertise" in anything... especially when you just lock wreck, activate salvager, get loot. The "expertise" of the salvaging profession is HOW you get your wrecks to salvage.

Also, towards your last statement... things are only lucrative due to being rare (and in demand). In EvE, rarity is (roughly) derived from risk. As someone who makes a profession based on salvage, I'm sure you're aware of what happens when the risk associated with items is decreased (removed). Adding a salvage site without having high levels of risk (aka. rats that also require a combat ability) would only serve to further devalue any lucrative drops that currently exist.

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That's... actually not a bad idea. It doesn't produce salvage out of thin air, just gives salvagers a chance to clean up after mission runners. Unfortunately you screw over outfits like Pro Synergy (and similar freelancers) who create relationships between mission runners and salvagers, and honestly a completely player-managed service like that should trump game-assisted mechanics. You'll also get complaints from people who do several missions, then sweep through and salvage them all at once. But that's less important in my opinion.

Don't troll bro. Apparently you cannot read. I knew there would be one who couldn't. I SAID STARTER FRIGATE. One that is specially made for salvaging. This gives credibility to the salvaging profession and reinforces that it is an actual profession. If I wanted to build a make-shift salvaging vessel out of a destroyer, I would. [/quote]

If I were looking at salvaging as a career, I would hope that salvaging "sites" did not get implemented. As it stands currently, a resourceful salvager can get all the salvaging he could hope for, with little to no risk of combat. You can bet your butt if sites were implemented, they would include random rat spawns, which would kill your productivity.

I've made just under 1 billion isk salvaging in 1 week in high sec, and well over that amount in null sec. If you have a hard time understanding how, join the channel Pro Synergy in game and ask questions. Salvaging corps are the way to go in high sec. Alternately, you can join a null sec corp that has their own ratting systems and salvage behind anom runners. I honestly can't imagine a better way to train up a new pilot, make some serious isk, and get to know your fellow copies all at the same time. I've known several new pilots that had several billion isk in their wallet before they ever had enough sp's for combat.

If you want to take pride in something, take pride in the fact that you can pay for, fit, and fly a top notch salvage boat while the miner who started when you did is still flying his special snowflake frigate. And the fact that he will never make as much isk as you, as a solo pilot.