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Kinaria Amekiras
#21 - 2013-07-16 02:41:11 UTC
Well it seems to me that putting defenses around a tower works only as a scare method because if someone has paid the I think 50m ISK to war dec you they feel they will be able to destroy your POS easily enough right? So defenses = less war dec but take down everything anyways when war dec'ed? Also if a corp has say one member and war dec's you which I guess you would view as limited threat would they be able to say invite 50 more people that can instantly attack you or would they have to wait 24 hrs to do such?
Tydeth Gilitae
Magewright Artificers
#22 - 2013-07-16 06:18:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Tydeth Gilitae
I may be wrong, but I think it's instant. If so, they can dec and fight you as a one-man, wait a couple days while you laugh and keep your pos going, then hot-recruit-drop 50 guys and decimate your base.

I looked in EVE Wiki and it doesn't seem to have anything about this.
Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE
Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
#23 - 2013-07-16 06:57:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Battlestar
Kinaria Amekiras wrote:
Well it seems to me that putting defenses around a tower works only as a scare method because if someone has paid the I think 50m ISK to war dec you they feel they will be able to destroy your POS easily enough right? So defenses = less war dec but take down everything anyways when war dec'ed? Also if a corp has say one member and war dec's you which I guess you would view as limited threat would they be able to say invite 50 more people that can instantly attack you or would they have to wait 24 hrs to do such?


On a medium and large defenses can make a tower hard to take down or at least less interesting to take down, but a small tower is best to just strip down during the war and put it back up once the war concludes. Or you can leave it up and take any valuable mods off of it with the hope that they decide not to attack it. Just make sure you strontium it so if they do, you can make their lives that much more busier. Even if you can't defend it, setting a strontium timer of a day plus 12 hours could force them to do an alarm clock op to take it down if they are weak in the right timezone.

A single man corp will likely just be looking for ship kills, because shooting a small tower in a single ship can take up to 8 hours or more depending on the ship (assuming it is offline and unable to enter reinforced, or onlined and not strontiumed.). However that doesn't mean they couldn't accept friends into their corp during the war and attack your tower later (I don't know about timers joining however there is a iirc 7 day wait if they leave a corp during a war to rejoin).

I once podded myself by blowing a huge fart.
Kinaria Amekiras
#24 - 2013-07-18 04:55:28 UTC
Well thanks everyone for the information I really appreciate it!^^
Grozen
Mateber Mining and Manufacturing Company
C U L T
#25 - 2013-07-18 07:31:17 UTC
Caldari large towers are best for isk making, and you have to make sure to use its bonuses properly and set up tons of ewar mods.Imagine if you're decced by 10people and they come to shoot you only to get jammed every 5seconds....Lol
In my own opinion you can never have too much defenses and if you train starbase defence management well you can put a heck of a fight even outnumbured.

knowledge is power.
Alisarina
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-07-18 09:47:59 UTC
Ewar the **** out of your POS to make it as much of a head ache as humanly possible and chances are you will never get war decced, unless someone just wants to try their luck or has 50+ people to do the bash, which in that case, your boned ragardless.

Use token weapons too, you would be suprised the amount of people that just sit there stationary whilst POS bashing taking full damage hits and going pop even from an automated POS shooting randomly, it's hilarious. Also as all the guides say, spread it all out etc. If you make it a royal pain in the neck to take down, chances are people will just ignore you for better low hanging fruit on the next moon over.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#27 - 2013-07-18 13:35:19 UTC
Grozen wrote:
Caldari large towers are best for isk making, and you have to make sure to use its bonuses properly and set up tons of ewar mods.Imagine if you're decced by 10people and they come to shoot you only to get jammed every 5seconds....Lol
In my own opinion you can never have too much defenses and if you train starbase defence management well you can put a heck of a fight even outnumbured.



Here is the problem with this statement. You Ewar up your **** and all i have to do is bring 4-5 sentry Boats(Domis/ Geddons) and shoot once for them to agress. After that drones keep shooting and i dont need to stay locked.


Fit pos hardeners. Just have them anchored inside your large tower for use when you need to. Get War decced online all of them.

A **** star can have like 100m ehp. That is annoying as **** to grind through with only battleships.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#28 - 2013-07-18 19:15:35 UTC
Alisarina wrote:
Ewar the **** out of your POS to make it as much of a head ache as humanly possible and chances are you will never get war decced, unless someone just wants to try their luck or has 50+ people to do the bash, which in that case, your boned ragardless.

Use token weapons too, you would be suprised the amount of people that just sit there stationary whilst POS bashing taking full damage hits and going pop even from an automated POS shooting randomly, it's hilarious. Also as all the guides say, spread it all out etc. If you make it a royal pain in the neck to take down, chances are people will just ignore you for better low hanging fruit on the next moon over.


The biggest reason for the token weapons is to prevent the attackers from just dropping a couple 'Geddons or Domis and bashing the tower with drones while AFK.

The guns mean they have to at least be a little ATK to keep everything going. And in the face of 60+ POS ECM Batteries, that sucks.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Huttan Funaila
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-07-18 19:54:19 UTC
Kinaria Amekiras wrote:
Well it seems to me that putting defenses around a tower works only as a scare method because if someone has paid the I think 50m ISK to war dec you they feel they will be able to destroy your POS easily enough right? So defenses = less war dec but take down everything anyways when war dec'ed? Also if a corp has say one member and war dec's you which I guess you would view as limited threat would they be able to say invite 50 more people that can instantly attack you or would they have to wait 24 hrs to do such?

Not really. Part of the goal is to appear like beating you up is not worth the time and effort involved.

In highsec one can stuff one's tower full of jammers. This style of defense is called "dickstar" - a play of words on "deathstar".

Two older threads of mine with plenty of links for reading material are:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1918399#post1918399
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2568988#post2568988

As the jammers get destroyed, just keep onlining replacement arrays. Space them out so that they are not vulnerable to smartbombing. Combine a few webbing and warp scrambling arrays with autocannon batteries to make their life miserable. Park a couple of POSpreys inside the shield during war time and when the aggressors depart, poke your nose out of the shield and rep the shields. sample beginner POSprey fit.
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