EVE General Discussion

ehh

man i should have worded that another way

everyone has that now, and there's no serious attempt to take it away from anyone.

A more serious answer.

EvE offers a diversified play experience . Some people call it the sandbox. But what most people see is the sand around them. CCP does their job very well. So much so that people enjoy their experience no matter what sec status or wh they play in.

They love the sand they see around them so much that they want more. What they forget is that sandboxes have structure, four walls that make a box. They forget that EvE works because it appeals to so many different play styles and if they make all the sand their sand there is nothing left for anyone else.

People need to let go of what other people have and enjoy the sand they have around them. Build a castle, dig a hole, play with army men, whatever; and respect that they share the sandbox with other people who also enjoy the sand. Just not the same way.

some rewards can't be increased without breaking the game. for example, somewhere between a year and two years ago it was mentioned by ccp soundwave in an interview with ten ton hammer that npc bounties were a bit too high and ccp was considering adding greater isk sinks or decreasing bounties across the board (i can't remember exactly, but this will do for what i'm trying to say). supposing npc bounty rewards in null were too low and highsec too high (this is only an example, mind), increasing nullsec bounty rewards would only increase the broader problem of too much bounty isk entering the game.

as another example, it's considered by some that highsec station manufacturing is too good. at the moment, these people claim, there are too many slots for what everyone produces in the game and the prices are so cheap they're practically free. you can't make low or nullsec manufacturing better than 'infinite and free', can you? if that assertion was correct, and this was a problem that needed to be solved, there would be no choice but to nerf highsec manufacturing.

Horse before the cart.

Some nullsec powers don't see much value in industry because free and infinitely available large-scale manufacturing exists in high. Remove the latter and they're very quickly re-evaluate their views or be smashed to tiny bits. And no, highsec manufacturing can safely be nerfed a whole lot without wrecking anything.

Large-scale manufacturing would still be need and would still happen. The economy would just adjust to the new circumstances as far as costs and availability goes, and those who are in highsec only because it's far superior to all alternatives would move out and just keep going.

You can make more in Manhattan than Mogadishu, go figure.

AMEN. High Sec SHOULD be where industry prospers, it makes sense. Civilized people tend to profit more than people simply wanting to bash each other with sticks....

Also, Null sec in a big alliance is less dangerous than mining/missioning in high sec as a solo player. So don't give us the 'Risk vs reward' hogwash.

'risk vs reward' refers to the actual base risk before players take action to mitigate that risk

...What does not make sense is for a game to peeve off the majority of its subscribers based on a few antisocial trenchcoat mafia types.

There is NO reason why the PVE difficulty can't be bumped up and made more interactive (some kind of manual targeting for mining, maybe random asteroids crash into your ship etc.) for missions keep going with the NPC target priority, fewer ships but more powerful with more ECM/Scramble tactics....

For industry, just put some taxes on it or add some RNG across the board so its not a certain calculable thing. Or various other things

... Point is the people going around saying its only a PVP sandbox are just finding ways to justify their antisocial behavior... And I like space and EVE, but if they try to force me into null with the ****** goons and other nitwit apes hitting each other with sticks, my money will go elsewhere.

What majority would that be?

More than that is needed to create the kind of margin where other parts of space is needed, though.

That doesn't make any sense. The antisocials rather seem to clamour about how they should be left alone and should be allowed to cut themselves off (somehow) from the rest of the game. Also, can you point to any part of the game that is not subject to competition with, or opposition from, other players?

Of course, under such a scheme, sec status would no longer exist and gate guns would not care about your definition of “pirate”…

It really makes no sense that the galactic Empires would allow perrenial pariahs in their midst. A negative security status should be a choice a player makes, and there should be the same level of risk involved as a solo miner/missioner... right now the people who like to ruin other people's game experience have FAR FAR more freedom and play with far less consequences than the solo missioner/miner... A pirate can destroy what it took a PVE player MONTHS to acquire, and grind back the status, ships lost (IF they even lose a ship) without ANY CONSEQUENCE WHATSOEVER.... so becoming a scumbag is actually the SAFEST way to play this game.... that is dumb.