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Who built the Jump Gates?
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Fear Near
No Fear PP
#1 - 2013-07-16 19:55:57 UTC
If none of the ships we have can travel these distances by themselves then how did the jump gates get built? Did Concord drive all the way out to 0.0 building Jump Gates in a magic Jove ship then arbitrarily decide to abandon those 'systems' ?
Fear Near
No Fear PP
#2 - 2013-07-16 19:59:58 UTC
or Star Gate, whichever they're called.
Capt Lynch
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#3 - 2013-07-16 20:01:04 UTC
According to a EVE chronicle, the stargate builders would fly their ship manually out to the system that needed the gate with standard warp and the crew in stasis as outlined in this chronicle

http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/old-man-star/
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2013-07-16 20:02:11 UTC
Locate and read the Chronicle: "Old Man Star" for a bit of lore on both drones and stargates.


Edit: fark, beaten.

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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#5 - 2013-07-17 13:09:49 UTC
Obviously, this guy knows more.
Lilliana Stelles
#6 - 2013-07-17 13:17:56 UTC
Actually, it doesn't take that long to travel between systems using just a warp drive.

Systems are usually spread out by a lightyear or two.
Let's say two systems are two ly apart.
That's 126479.4526 AU apart.

Most small ships travel 6AU/s while in warp.
So it would take 21080 seconds to travel between stars under warp power, which is just under 6 hours.
Not actually very long at all for real-time interstellar travel.

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Sakaron Hefdover
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-07-17 13:20:24 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Actually, it doesn't take that long to travel between systems using just a warp drive.

Systems are usually spread out by a lightyear or two.
Let's say two systems are two ly apart.
That's 126479.4526 AU apart.

Most small ships travel 6AU/s while in warp.
So it would take 21080 seconds to travel between stars under warp power, which is just under 6 hours.
Not actually very long at all for real-time interstellar travel.


You forgot that you need a fair amount of materials to build a stargate.

Not only that, you have the cap problem of getting there as well
Lilliana Stelles
#8 - 2013-07-17 13:29:05 UTC
Sakaron Hefdover wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Actually, it doesn't take that long to travel between systems using just a warp drive.

Systems are usually spread out by a lightyear or two.
Let's say two systems are two ly apart.
That's 126479.4526 AU apart.

Most small ships travel 6AU/s while in warp.
So it would take 21080 seconds to travel between stars under warp power, which is just under 6 hours.
Not actually very long at all for real-time interstellar travel.


You forgot that you need a fair amount of materials to build a stargate.

Not only that, you have the cap problem of getting there as well



I'm just pointing out that it's a feasible trip.
I'm not saying you'd show up in an interceptor and *poof* a stargate appears.

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Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#9 - 2013-07-17 13:30:10 UTC
Sakaron Hefdover wrote:
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Actually, it doesn't take that long to travel between systems using just a warp drive.

Systems are usually spread out by a lightyear or two.
Let's say two systems are two ly apart.
That's 126479.4526 AU apart.

Most small ships travel 6AU/s while in warp.
So it would take 21080 seconds to travel between stars under warp power, which is just under 6 hours.
Not actually very long at all for real-time interstellar travel.


You forgot that you need a fair amount of materials to build a stargate.

Not only that, you have the cap problem of getting there as well




So 12 hours in a badger im not gonna do any math but i figure add 3 hours onto for cap problems. So a fleet of badgers carrying the materials still wouldnt even take a day to get there. A freighter could make the warp in under a week as well.Which still isnt that long
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-07-17 14:04:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Silivar Karkun
not all the gates were built, some of them dated before the collapse and were still functioning (the minmatar used them for their first steps in system colonization).

the amarr were the first ones in build them, because there was one almost intact in their home system, so they reverse engineered it easily.

the gallente and caldari worked together to create their own gates, from ancient stargates too, but took more time due to being very damaged.

but yeah, in order to work an stargate system requires one gate in each system, so people had to travel directly to the system by other means.

for those who talk about the warpdrive, according to the scientific articles, it is a recent invention (relativelly of course), the story in the Old Man Star chronicle dates back to the age when people used engines that worked at light speed. so travelling to a star could took years, if not decades.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#11 - 2013-07-17 17:33:58 UTC
I did.
They are burned out hives from the CCD epidemic, that I had re-tasked as linear accelerators. Lol

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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-07-17 17:44:59 UTC
"God put those there to test your faith!"

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Doddy
Excidium.
#13 - 2013-07-17 18:43:54 UTC
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Actually, it doesn't take that long to travel between systems using just a warp drive.

Systems are usually spread out by a lightyear or two.
Let's say two systems are two ly apart.
That's 126479.4526 AU apart.

Most small ships travel 6AU/s while in warp.
So it would take 21080 seconds to travel between stars under warp power, which is just under 6 hours.
Not actually very long at all for real-time interstellar travel.


The problem here is that the warp drive requires gravity sources to lock on to, and there is very little gravity at all in interstellar space. Warp drive is not really any use outsid ethe bounds of a solar system.
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#14 - 2013-07-17 18:44:14 UTC
CCP built the jump gates, do I win?
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-07-17 18:49:41 UTC
generation ships .. you start the voyage, your great great great grand nephew might reach the stars .. awesome concept but kinda sucks for you personally if you think about it
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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-07-17 18:55:16 UTC
A wizard did it.
Medude
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-07-17 19:50:34 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
A wizard did it.


Puts on his Wizard hat and robe Twisted
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#18 - 2013-07-17 19:51:18 UTC
Medude wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
A wizard did it.


Puts on his Wizard hat and robe Twisted


Eve has hats? New Steam integration?
Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
#19 - 2013-07-17 19:59:23 UTC
Fear Near wrote:
If none of the ships we have can travel these distances by themselves then how did the jump gates get built? Did Concord drive all the way out to 0.0 building Jump Gates in a magic Jove ship then arbitrarily decide to abandon those 'systems' ?


New Eden is not the top of an evolution evolution/technology, is decadence, a dark age. Humnkind started the colonozitation of the new space (New Eden) with a superior technology.

After the EVE gate collapse the civililization they had started to settle collapsed too in thousands of dark age, leaving all that stuff uncompleted and forgotten. Tools, resources and technology brought from the first colonization were far superior to what we have now.

Even if the memory of this only survive in myths and legends.

But also the option "CCP made it" is a good hypotesys :)
Silent Rambo
Orion Positronics
#20 - 2013-07-17 20:50:37 UTC
Sura Sadiva wrote:

After the EVE gate collapse the civililization they had started to settle collapsed too in thousands of dark age, leaving all that stuff uncompleted and forgotten. Tools, resources and technology brought from the first colonization were far superior to what we have now.


There is a bunch of cool stuff regarding the EVE gate. If you look at the wiki page it says that the belief is the gate is actually still open, but there is massive magnetic disturbances coming from the ADAM side of the gate. Also speculation that the wormhole not only brought travelers through space, but through time as well. Very interesting stuff!

You really think someone would do that? Just log into EvE and tell lies?
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