Science & Industry

Depending upon what side of the fence you reside, having to "work" for anything in a video game is either ludicrous or its own reward. Add your personal stance, you either want instant gratification or willing to work towards its own reward.

This expansion basically gave the older players that worked towards a reward the middle finger while hoping to draw in the instant gratification crowd that find working (in general) a ludicrous affair and left for other peons to handle.

"Where's my welfare check (in game)?"

Why they post risk/reward bullshit on forums then?

I don't mine deep inside coalition territory, the risk reward balance should not be based on such a narrow aspect.

By balancing the risk vs reward of mining to make the breaking point mining deep inside coalition space, they have effectively killed all null sec mining out side coalition space.

Giving up my game play and joining a herd in service of a null sec coalition is not adapting, it is giving up and accepting to play content that has been dumbed down and boring. If I wanted that i would go play WOW.

I am not asking for access to content that was designed and only ever available for members of large player groups. This is content that was available to me, and has now effectively been removed, unless I become part of the herd, and serve players that will tell me how to play.

I would understand if this change actually improved the game in some other aspect. But it does not. There was no reason to remove gravametric sites. I have no problem with the addition of ore anomalies, but that did not require gravametric sites to be removed completely. The null bears don't seem to care that their belts spawed by sov upgrades have been changed from grav sites to anomalies, that is fine with me, but please give us back the random gravametric sites that need to be scanned down with probes. there was no reason for them to be removed. They can simply be a step up from the ore anomalies the old grav sites have been changed into. That step up does not need to be better ores, just versions of the old sites with larger rocks.

I enjoy exploration, always have. When it came to gravametric sites I enjoyed the challenge of searching those sites out, and then working out how to get my fleet in to mine them without being destroyed. It was not easy, but it was thechallenge I enjoyed, not the mining itself. Now that challenge is gone. Joining a null sec herd will not bring it back, it has been removed from the game.

I understand the idea to reduce the entry barrier, but that could have been added without removing the harder content that experienced explorers like myself enjoyed. I like the new hacking mechanics, but why limit that content to what is accessible to new players, have it scale up to harder sites that only experienced players can complete. leave the ore anomalies as they are, but add random gravametric sites back in, they should not have been removed.

Odyssey as a whole has been a great expansion. Fixing this one mistake would make it near perfect.

Having visited deep Sov Null via WH post-Odyssey and been run off by the Sov holders by use of ammunition, I can confirm that the Sov-related ex-gravimetrics are just like all the others: instant warp to without probes. The only difference is that the Sov ones each have a gigantic rock.

While that does mean that they can run you off or just blow you up without needing to scan you down first, there is also the fact that getting to a site upon entry, to either mine it or attack the miners if that's your thing, is likewise quick and easy. Given how some run when Local updates a new name (and with Odyssey, Local adds you while you're still in the jump tunnel animation), this allows opposing alliances and roaming marauders a chance to actually reach their targets to inflict economic damage. Given the defensive options alliances utilize to protect their space, one can see how it can appear as favoritism since Low-Sec and NPC Null tend to not have fleets killing the attackers before they can enter the systems with the miners.

Dude, don't try to make anyone believe mining in sov-controlled null is dangerous. Anyone that's spent any time in blue sov space knows full well it's probably safer than most well-travelled high sec corridors.

Finally another freelancer with nearly the same complaint as myself.

I am all for leaving the new ore sites as they are.

But please give us back the random gravametric sites in low and NPC null that were the bread and butter for us freelancers.

Mining does not work in these area's without the small safety net gravametric sites provided.

I double web my retriever and just have her stay aligned. Mucho ore and ice sucka!