Player Features and Ideas Discussion

First off, I have seen this post and found it excellent for a long term Vision.

Planetary Interaction 2.1

Haven't completed it yet, ADD kicked in and will need to spend some quiet time with it.

I have an agenda, and that agenda is to build a PI corporate infrastructure that is more "realistic" in its capabilities and operational mechanics. This is but a small first step in that direction. I believe the following enhancement would change PI from a more individual activity to a truer group activity. I'm sure they are not original, I have seen variations on the forums.

• Create PI Hauling skill/role/mechanism so designated individuals can collect resources from Customs Offices of corp members who allow it (Skill increases Distance Hauler can "see" loads ready for pickup: System thru Region)
• Create skill/mechanism that allows corp members to designate POCOs that corp hauler can collect from (ex: at level V they can have resources collected from all their planets)
• Create a new tax for POCO owners to charge for this additional service
• Add Government Surcharge Tax on loads picked up from POCOs by PI Haulers, paid buy CC owner
• "New Trade Skill" to improve interact with Customs Officials (government surcharge reduction with higher "New Trade Skill")

Do not make this easy to get into. Require high levels of PI training for PI Hauler and PI Operators to train/use these capabilities. Intent is to make this an advanced level of Planetary operation that requires a commitment in skills and isk by all those participating. The benefits could be great if managed correctly, so the effort to get it operational should balance the reward.

This would also need to be followed up with additional enhancements over time to allow building more complex infrastructure.

I'm looking at it from the perspective of a much larger corporate operation, not as a means of simplifying running multiple accounts with alts. Logistically speaking, mining, combat, and manufacturing all have game mechanics that encourage cooperation within and outside your corporation. I'm sure your more than aware of this, but so you know from which direction I am coming from, I am looking at those mechanics that improve efficiency, provide competitive advantage etc.

And yes, it is not possible to have the same type of approach, like the benefit of a group of pilots going on a mining operation. Most of the benefit comes from working together "at the same time". Planetary has a time delay where things are running while you are away, more like manufacturing.

My interest is in Planetary evolving into a larger scale enterprise where there is exponential value to the corporation, and therefor individual pilots, as the number of active participants grows.

Problem is that it does make ALT operations much easier, sometimes that cannot be helped. That is why I suggested a serious skill sink in order to make this available. Both on the PI Hauler pilot and the PI operators who want to have their stuff collected. Possibly a Corp training skill as well. Due to the potential value I would make the barrier to entry high and growth held in check by having skill levels that would require a serious commitment on all players/ALTS wanting the benefit.

This would also need to be followed up with additional enhancements over time to allow building more complex infrastructure.

As far as the PI Hauling Ship, I was thinking something between a transport and a freighter. Considerably more storage but with fitting capabilities to allow it to work in LS.

You'll be able to get ~70k out of the itty 3 if you have the skills to V, how much PI storage do you need?



And if you make this really skill intensive, we'll just do what we do anyway and haul the stuff out ourselves then contract it to the corp. What's wrong with having people do that anyway? What problem are you trying to solve?

Don't for get to include Shift+click to setup up multiple processors at once

I have an agenda, and that agenda, starting with this simple post, is to collaboratively develop a series of requirements to meet a vision I believe many have. To build a PI corporate infrastructure that is more "realistic" in its capabilities and operational mechanics. I'm also looking at a pure LS operation with LS security needs being accounted for.

This is but a baby step in a wide ranging set of ideas spanning many threads and expressed by many players that are not intended to fix a flawed mechanism or simplify a task:

• Contracting, shipping, out of COs
• Allowing CCs to link to each other at corp level so resources can be routed between them
• Specialized factory CC's
• Purchase/Transfer ownership of COs

Don't get me wrong (no intention of sounding whinny, sensitive, or like a complainer), I want to be challenged, on the core ideas and larger Goals at this point (of which I only expressed one initially). A rabbit hole on a very specific facet is too early at this point. So lets not get hung up on the "planetary Hauler". It was "Optional" in terms of the larger idea, was just intended to expand on the larger idea, and I added it as an after thought. It has now become a distraction, my mistake adding it this early.

Danika - I agree with you in terms of using an Orca, Freighter, Iterons would work, just not how I envision it. I do want a big fat target that can, if flown by the right pilot and configured well, hold its ground against reds, till at least backup shows up. BUT there are many more pieces that need to be in-place before it makes sense.

Thinking about it, would you require the corp running this thing to be using it's own POCOs, or running them out of other people's?