Out of Pod Experience

I played WoW. Started with Burning Crusade and played up through Cataclysm. I would still be playing, but the Pandas totally killed it for me. They should not have introduced a whole new race that was never in the world of WoW to start with. Maybe instead of Pandas, it should have been Ogres, or some other race that was already in-game but not playable. They dropped a giant continent onto the map (again) with no back-story or history or lore that tied it with the rest of WoW lore, and called it an expansion.

I had to leave WoW. I went to SWTOR. The buggiest game on Earth! It's fun being a Sith lord however, so I still play it. I feel kind of cheated, though. I pay the monthly subscription, but if I want the cool looking l3wtz, I have to pay extra. At least it's not pay to win stuff.

Taking the plunge in EVE was an eye opener. It's freaking hostile around here (in game - not the forums. Forums are forums are forums). This is the first game I've ever played that's got me constantly looking over my shoulder and feeling the tension.

I go out on an expensive mining barge fitted with expensive modules and just hope I'll survive long enough to make back my expenses. I did, by the way, make bake my investment. Even made enough to replace the Navy Comet I lost not long ago.

EVE Online is an exiting game. I can't wait until my skills are good enough to let me survive in lowsec space.

I was in WoW before I found EvE.

I got bored of it after about a year. I didn't level fast; I didn't want to. I wanted to explore everything and that was more fun when it was hard to just to survive. Exploring when you can kill everything in one zone with a single glance isn't fun.

Before WoW, I played Asheron's Call 2. Or, at least I tried to, but the lag was murder. Again it was fun to explore off the roads and sometimes I would put the game on one computer, tind a nice spot and sit and fish. As a screen saver it was perfect.

As for the quests and things they got silly in WoW and then I discovered Trade. So armed with a spreadsheet and 1 Gold Coin I ended up with hundreds of thousands in weeks. Dead easy in WoW and I wish it were that easy in EvE, but then that would spoil the game.

"Want a new spaceship, sir? Yes, it's in the postbox next to Mallory's Bar. Mind how you unpack it sir, the antennae could take your eye out"

WoW soon becaome tedious when they started to make everything easier and the ability to level in a keystroke. I hope that CCP don't dumb this little gem down.

WOW... yea, true, nobody seems to use that expression much anymore these days... WOA and HEY are much more common.

OH! The GAME! ...is that even still around?

Just kidding... but yea, F2P will come soonish, I bet.

In response to the title, World of Warcraft has been "dying" since the end of Wrath of the Lich King and the start of Cataclysm. With its peak total number of "subscriptions" (and I use quotation marks intentionally because Blizzard has a habit of counting accounts and/or account states as "active subscribers" that many people don't agree with) in the 12m to 13m (some advertisements did claim 13m) in 2009 it has since been dropping. Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's slow, and sometimes there's a resurgence, but overall people are leaving it and have been for almost half a decade now.



Your stance here is somewhat puzzling. Pandaren at least tie into World of Warcraft via the easter egg pandaren brewmaster in Warcraft 3, but you take exception to them rather than the draenei which have no basis in any of the lore prior to The Burning Crusade.

I don't much care for pandaren myself, but I'd have thought anyone who objected to "a whole new race that was never in the world of WoW to start with" would have twigged to Space Goats Coast to Coast first.



I like that article. It's really interesting for me given that I've been messing with the code for one of the World of Warcraft server projects off and on for a couple years now, and one of the things I've been pondering for a large portion of that time is how to "improve" the leveling process so that it is a journey, not a race, and how to make it a fun journey as well.

Look at it this way. World of Warcraft might still have 9m "active subscriptions" (of which maybe 3-4m are "real" players and not botters or internet cafe "subscriptions" for the Chinese shards), but it's lost 3-4m in as many years. EVE Online, however, has only just recently hit 500k or so "active subscriptions" (quotation marks to denote possible shenanigans on CCP's part for what constitutes an "active subscription"), but not only has EVE Online continued to grow year after year its losses have not amounted to a percentage equal to World of Warcraft's losses. Even the worst debacle I've seen from CCP (Captain's Quarters, NEX store, leaked memo on "theoretical" further/extreme monetization of EVE Online all hitting at once) failed to cause a comparable drop in subscription numbers.

All things considered I'd say that the condition of World of Warcraft says that EVE Online's condition is pretty damn good.

They already have one. It is called access level, and you can play for free up to level 20. If you want more, pay for it.

Concerning the WoW enjoyment and such, I play WoW from time to time just for the fun. I haven't done a single raid, and I just play for the Lore and the views. For me, the path to the level cap is the achievement, and in fact, once I reach level cap with a toon, I just leave it rooting in the list, and pick another one from level 1 for another race or class.

WoW is impressive, and it is really a pity that people just rush to get the max level and don't enjoy the journey.

I find it odd when I read posts about game XXX is dying theres only X amount of million players active/subscribed . I thought the idea of a game dying would be when there isn't enough active subscriptions to keep the game financially viable?. im pretty sure that WoW with its 5 plus million active accounts pouring into its coffers every month is making the owners of the game a pretty decent profit .
I still recall when EVE only had 8 thousand active players ....and EVE has come along way since then .would be interesting to see what the break even for active players is for eve.


enquiring minds and all that .