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WOW "suspect" -level = podable in secure space

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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#81 - 2013-07-15 12:43:12 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
2/3 expansions ago, and no one thinks it over the top that stealing a yellow can's contents gives ALL ships the right to pod you? what is the status that is higher degree than "suspect"? How do I earn it?

BTW, thanks Dalmont



Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

If you go looking for a fight, then why complain when you get one?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Durzel
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#82 - 2013-07-15 13:06:41 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
2/3 expansions ago, and no one thinks it over the top that stealing a yellow can's contents gives ALL ships the right to pod you? what is the status that is higher degree than "suspect"? How do I earn it?

BTW, thanks Dalmont



Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

If you go looking for a fight, then why complain when you get one?

He never wanted one. He wouldn't be flipping miners otherwise.

~elite pvp~
Nerf Burger
Doomheim
#83 - 2013-07-15 15:50:37 UTC
griefers got **** on. Poor babies. Lol

really they had potentially zero risk before. Your tears are delicious.
Burseg Sardaukar
Free State Project
#84 - 2013-07-15 16:34:57 UTC
The way things used to go for me:

In 0.4, tackle some guy in belt, take small, initial sec hit.
Wait patiently for him to shoot back to avoid HUGE sec hit for property destruction.
Leave the pod alone because I'm lazy and don't want to rat my sec up.

The way things go for me now:
In 0.4, tackle some guy in a belt, take medium sec hit.
Wait patiently for him to shoot back so I get Limited Engagement.
POD HIM BECAUSE NO PENALTY.
Or hell, now I can just smoke his ship and pod and just buy my sec back with tags.

Best. Changes. Ever.

#WINNING.

Can't wait to dual box my Dust toon and EVE toon on the same machine!
No Alibi
Sometimes Here
#85 - 2013-07-15 17:05:48 UTC
Don't use autopilot while you have a suspect timerRoll How about NEVER use autopilot! I should be removed from the game IMHO.Idea

I fly by the seat of my pants, No wonder my ass is always on fire!
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#86 - 2013-07-15 17:58:13 UTC
No Alibi wrote:
Don't use autopilot while you have a suspect timerRoll How about NEVER use autopilot! I should be removed from the game IMHO.Idea

Never! It does such a wonderful job of delivery fresh victims!
Yavanni
Unises Inc.
#87 - 2013-07-16 06:28:15 UTC
Vega Umbranox wrote:
i agree tbh i think you shouldnt be able to be podded from suspect timer in highsec. GCC yes


Thank you
Yavanni
Unises Inc.
#88 - 2013-07-16 06:35:10 UTC
Burseg Sardaukar wrote:
The way things used to go for me:

In 0.4, tackle some guy in belt, take small, initial sec hit.
Wait patiently for him to shoot back to avoid HUGE sec hit for property destruction.
Leave the pod alone because I'm lazy and don't want to rat my sec up.

The way things go for me now:
In 0.4, tackle some guy in a belt, take medium sec hit.
Wait patiently for him to shoot back so I get Limited Engagement.
POD HIM BECAUSE NO PENALTY.
Or hell, now I can just smoke his ship and pod and just buy my sec back with tags.

Best. Changes. Ever.

#WINNING.


third best response
Yavanni
Unises Inc.
#89 - 2013-07-16 07:14:52 UTC
Elliavir wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
So, that was an eye opener. It's bad enough that emptying a yellow can or wreck now makes your ship everyone's target (instead of just those members of the corp whose can or wreck you emptied) but they can pod you in secure space on top of that? When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.


Read through this thread before answering, and you seem to be equating podkilling with actual killing. Podkilling, since you are functionally immortal in the game through cloning, is more like a stern intervention. Maybe like tripping you or punching you or something like that to stop you as you run away with someone's purse. Which folks IRL do quite often. The yellow flashy tag is, in effect, someone yelling "Stop, thief!".

The scenario you want - you steal from someone, and only they or their close associates can intervene. So, if they are alone and/or unable to respond you can freely and openly walk over to the next target, in full view of a crowd of people, steal their stuff, and so on. Indefinitely, if you pick your targets well. Which is mind-bogglingly unrealistic.

The new crimewatch is far more realistic, once you get over the bizarre equating of podkilling with actual death. People who are gunned down IRL don't just waltz out of a clone bay a few seconds later a bit poorer for the experience.

Actual thieves usually have to run and hide for a bit after committing a theft. It's a skill you might want to learn if you wish to continue your career as a thief.


This has nothing to do with clones or clone bays. The real life equivalent is: You pick up a purse someone set on the ground and walked away from and walk or run to your car. Now not only can anyone who wants to (rather than just the owner of the purse and her extended family) play hero and come and shoot out your tires and your radiator, now they can come over to the car after disabling it and put the gun to your head and pull the trigger. And folks in real life DO NOT pull out guns and shoot out your tires and radiator. AND if they are going to make it so that ANYONE can attack you, they should have reduced the amount of time you had to stay under cover from 15 minutes to, say, 10 minutes.
Effect One
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#90 - 2013-07-16 07:34:23 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
statii


Statuses

'This might be internet spaceships, but it's not rocket science to protect yourself and fly with a little common sense' - CCP Falcon
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#91 - 2013-07-16 07:44:06 UTC
Effect One wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
statii


Statuses


States.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Obmud
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2013-07-16 08:41:24 UTC
Ha! This is gold. Its like a dealer calling the police because a junkie ripped him off. Pure comedy.

Obmud wrote: I just thrive on forum drama. - by Riot Girl - at 2013.11.28 04:46:00

You should sig that, it will look good on you.
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2013-07-16 09:19:32 UTC
Yavanni wrote:

What dream world do you live in where a thief can be killed by any passerby who happens along?
The Old West
Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2013-07-16 09:24:38 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
...Being a thief used to be an honest profession...
I think by definition thievery isn't an honest profession.
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#95 - 2013-07-16 09:25:59 UTC
Job Valador wrote:
quit complaining and go gank a miner or something

this.
Yavanni
Unises Inc.
#96 - 2013-07-29 07:24:43 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Yavanni wrote:

What dream world do you live in where a thief can be killed by any passerby who happens along?
The Old West

an exelent choice of dream worlds.
Yavanni
Unises Inc.
#97 - 2013-07-29 07:26:21 UTC
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
...Being a thief used to be an honest profession...
I think by definition thievery isn't an honest profession.

it is one of the oldest, therefor time-honored, if not honest, professions. But I was speaking as a player in a PvP gaming environment.
Hedian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#98 - 2013-07-29 09:06:24 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
Bi-Mi Lansatha wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
...Being a thief used to be an honest profession...
I think by definition thievery isn't an honest profession.

it is one of the oldest, therefor time-honored, if not honest, professions. But I was speaking as a player in a PvP gaming environment.



But you clearly suck at it. Perhaps you should try the oldest profession instead. Might work out better for you....
Naburi NasNaburi
Doomheim
#99 - 2013-07-29 09:32:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Naburi NasNaburi
Yavanni wrote:
When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.

December 4th 2012

What really REALLY sucks tho, is podding a suspect/criminal who is involved in FW.. juicy 75% standing loss with their FW corp..
I joined FW recently and found out the hard way that my standing to them is at -9.90 due to suspect and criminal pods.
Yay for lvl 1 missions.. *coughs*
Eve is harsh.. very harsh.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#100 - 2013-07-29 10:17:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Yavanni wrote:
So, that was an eye opener. It's bad enough that emptying a yellow can or wreck now makes your ship everyone's target (instead of just those members of the corp whose can or wreck you emptied) but they can pod you in secure space on top of that? When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.


Yep. Best way to get good fights in high sec, go global suspect and see who's got the balls to attack you. This is probably the best thing that's ever happened to high sec, imho. Because it works both ways. As soon as they attack and you have a limited engagement with someone, it's just as 'legal' for you to pod them as it is for them to pod you.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104