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YES I UNDERSTAND CCP WILL NEVER DO THIS, BUT...
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Daugar Draaken
EBSTF Holdings
#1 - 2013-07-15 21:07:09 UTC
I'd like to invite people to creatively speculate along. What if for some reason CCP would decide to implement a fifth species of humans, with slightly unique technological emphasis, weapons, color scheme, visual design. I understand such a massive change would destabilize many sacred calfs and throw many a panty into a tangle, but I can't help myself and entertain such outlandish speculations.

I'd love to hear ideas of what people would want to see, if this were done, not blank dismissals. What weapons would you favor? What kind of design style would make faction5 ships distinctive from existing vessels. How would they specialize? How would first contact occur? What kind of unique new things would CCP be able to implement in these new Faction5 systems. Could such faction come with a host of new technologies and skills?

I invite you all to speculate along, and share your thoughts on whether this would get new subscribers, or awaken old accounts. Could a surge of completely new weapons and ships and components (and whole new niches of technological development unseen in known space) be used to address long existing conceptual frailties in the game, and if so how?
Shiera Kuni
Electric Machete
#2 - 2013-07-15 21:10:57 UTC
I'm curious but, if your title states, "YES I UNDERSTAND CCP WILL NEVER DO THIS, BUT..." then what is the purpose of posting the thread? As far as the content of the thread. We already have a fifth race, the Jovians. Also, a possible sixth, Terrans. Will either of these be playable? Doubtful. Will we get access to their ships? Possibly. We don't really need another race and the lore retconning that would be needed to make it functional.

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Swiftstrike1
Swiftstrike Incorporated
#3 - 2013-07-15 21:12:08 UTC
Live event in the distant future when Eve finally becomes unprofitable and closes down. Humans from Earth arrive in New Eden somehow. They are incredibly advanced because they didn't have a "dark age" after the collapse of the wormhole in the New Eden solar system. **** hits the fan and shenanigans ensue.

Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-07-15 21:15:04 UTC
If this isn't a serious feature proposal or idea, as you indicate by stating you know "CCP will never do" it, shouldn't it be in the General Discussion forum?

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Daugar Draaken
EBSTF Holdings
#5 - 2013-07-15 21:17:51 UTC
My post clearly invites speculation.

The explantion on how that fifth species could be inroduced should not have to involve retconning.

Quote:
In the ancient age when earth humanity discovered the eve gate and settled the eve region other such gates opened and other human tribes dispersed and scattered throughout the galaxy. One such clade of humans has lived for aeons in relative isolation. They settled a region perpendicular in the galaxy to the flat pancake region surrounding the four established clades. These fifth clade humans followed a radically different evolutionary track emphasizing cybernetics. They no longer have human bodies, emphasizing full body cybernetics or bio-engineered physiologies. Of course the Jovians have long been aware of their presence and have been anticipating the mutual expansion of the established states to eventually intersect with the newcomers. It was just a matter of time before these lost tribes would be re-united.
Ronny Hugo
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-07-15 21:23:46 UTC
I'm just waiting for the Eve gate to open and our ancestors to flood through and try to exterminate us, like they did the Indians of North and South America, Africans, Indigenous Australians, Sapmi people of Scandinavia, etc. This time it would be more fun I think. Seeing as it is a game.
Shiera Kuni
Electric Machete
#7 - 2013-07-15 21:25:36 UTC
I'll be honest, that sounds more like an attempt at making a playable Sansha Nation race. But, if you read the books, the Gallente are also very free with the use of cybernetics, replacing entire organs, or in some cases everything but their skin.

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Daugar Draaken
EBSTF Holdings
#8 - 2013-07-15 21:26:26 UTC
Quote:
..If this isn't a serious feature proposal or idea..


You find me in a conundrum. If I postulate an idea such as this as a serious "features and ideas" discussion I end with the predictable hostility that "I should STFU" and "I must be crazy for having the nerve to dare interfere with ..." and all that. I have noticed that quite a few Eve regulars can be viciously hostile to any speculation that may have the end result of upsetting their precariously fine tuned cabbage patch.

By postulating in advance this is idle speculation, I invite those people who might have a predisposition towards such daydreams along to come up with ideas.

Yes I would personally love to see such a fifth faction emerge in the next few years of CCP game design, as much as I would adore seeing Eve Online still exist in a vastly expanded and significantly larger user base 5, ten or twenty years from now.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#9 - 2013-07-15 21:27:31 UTC
How about a Hull tanking ... real man tanking race with high density plasma weapon system a mixture of lasers and blasters with mostly thermal damage type.

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
RoAnnon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-07-15 21:41:54 UTC
Daugar Draaken wrote:
You find me in a conundrum...


I see that as an idea, my comment about taking this to GD was premature.

In regards to balance, with the current 4 races aligned Amarr/Caldari v. Minmatar/Gallente... shouldn't we be talking about adding TWO races, to ... you know,.. keep things in balance? :)

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Daugar Draaken
EBSTF Holdings
#11 - 2013-07-15 21:51:37 UTC
RoAnnon wrote:
Daugar Draaken wrote:
You find me in a conundrum...


I see that as an idea, my comment about taking this to GD was premature.

In regards to balance, with the current 4 races aligned Amarr/Caldari v. Minmatar/Gallente... shouldn't we be talking about adding TWO races, to ... you know,.. keep things in balance? :)


You bring a smile to my face. Yes, mostly certainly so.
Me ofcourse
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2013-07-16 03:33:24 UTC
why not allow players to join in as the pirate factions? they are already there, just not really utilized except for target practice
Daugar Draaken
EBSTF Holdings
#13 - 2013-07-16 05:10:57 UTC
Me ofcourse wrote:
why not allow players to join in as the pirate factions? they are already there, just not really utilized except for target practice


- Person goes to a supermarket, puts in a request they sell asian food articles
- Other guests pitch in, and insist the supermarket increase the range of pizza!

The question was not about "pirate factions". My question was to speculate about a completely new fifth faction.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-07-16 12:06:32 UTC
Daugar Draaken wrote:
Me ofcourse wrote:
why not allow players to join in as the pirate factions? they are already there, just not really utilized except for target practice


- Person goes to a supermarket, puts in a request they sell asian food articles
- Other guests pitch in, and insist the supermarket increase the range of pizza!

The question was not about "pirate factions". My question was to speculate about a completely new fifth faction.



But, as has already been said, we already HAVE a fifth faction. The Jovians.
Kane Fenris
NWP
#15 - 2013-07-16 13:47:15 UTC
Swiftstrike1 wrote:
Live event in the distant future when Eve finally becomes unprofitable and closes down. Humans from Earth arrive in New Eden somehow. They are incredibly advanced because they didn't have a "dark age" after the collapse of the wormhole in the New Eden solar system. **** hits the fan and shenanigans ensue.



we have em already.... they call themselve jove
Daugar Draaken
EBSTF Holdings
#16 - 2013-07-17 08:58:54 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Daugar Draaken wrote:
Me ofcourse wrote:
why not allow players to join in as the pirate factions? they are already there, just not really utilized except for target practice


- Person goes to a supermarket, puts in a request they sell asian food articles
- Other guests pitch in, and insist the supermarket increase the range of pizza!

The question was not about "pirate factions". My question was to speculate about a completely new fifth faction.



But, as has already been said, we already HAVE a fifth faction. The Jovians.


Can you play them?

Besides I don't find Jove vessel designs very compelling. Ugly.