Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The limitation would be meaningless. If you make it once per day per ship, people will just have many marauders. If you make it once per day per character... people have lots of alts. All of EVE would be swarming with invulnerable Marauders

I like the basic idea that Marauders should be ships that can operate alone behind enemy lines and do damage there, without being used to even greater effect in fleets. But this is not the way to achieve that goal. Not sure if there is a way.

edit: I have an idea that would enable a Marauder to actually travel through hostile space, which at the moment is suicidal in a battleship: Give it a unique jump drive that has a range of only 1 system. You can only travel one system at a time, but you don't have to use gates. When jumping, you land in a random spot somewhere in the system, so you cannot use it to hotdrop someone. Spooling up the jump drive takes 60 seconds, so if people know you're coming and are waiting with probes out and a dictor ready to warp, they can catch you. But you can cloak or warp when you see the probes, at the cost of aborting the spoolup.

For the actual marauding part, the ship would need some special bonus. Like 300% damage bonus against structures... although that isn't much fun. We probably need more innovation in the "farms&fields" department first, some new mechanics that enable looting and pillaging of space.

Meh, all I see this doing is encouraging people to do crazy stuff.

Why worry about that gate camp? charge right through and see if you make it.

Can't afford to lose a ship? Don't matter if it's this one, at least that one time a day.

This will create chaos, with people training this skill up to fly these, and attacking each other.

Uhhh... wait... thats a good thing, ain't it....

In that case....

+1

Now, that is an interesting approach, but I find that direction to be limited.

Specifically, you will notice that only ships intended to avoid combat have this. Sure, you can try and use them in PvP aggressively, but they are not anything approaching an ideal design for this.

The problem with that is simply, it is a solution designed to improve escape chances with only a limited exposure timeframe.
Anything sticking around long enough to fight can have this resistance easily overwhelmed, which kills the whole point of an attack ship using it.

Ok, so then why not just a jump drive?
Jump drives have three primary flaws, in this context.

One: They need someone at the other end to open up the portal. Sure, not a major obstacle with friends or a second account, but still needs to be done.

Two: They can be pointed, and stopped. If you are using them as intended in this proposal, things have gone south, and you are about to go boom. The point is feeling confidant enough to take risks that any OTHER ship should go boom under.
This is the Marauder, the ship that attacks.

Three: they need 80% cap. This ship already had an extremely obvious weakness with the sensor limits. Trading that ECM for a neut is hardly a challenge.

If this was a practical approach, the BLOPs BS class would already be wildly attacking everything, joyfully oblivious to any repercussions.

This unrestrained ability to engage fearlessly is already limited to a once a day self-rescue.
Limiting it further defeats the purpose, and leaves it back as an expensive option where cheaper ships can be used instead.

Marauders should be the ultimate solo pvp boat.

I propose giving them a SICK local rep bonus (60%?) at the cost of really bad resists.

You played that game too, eh?

Been awhile since I did, but I recognized that.

No, this is something to yank you out of combat going badly, and only one time a day.

It exists specifically so players will take otherwise insane risks, and stir up trouble.

Everything else: don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
This Marauder: once a day, you can try anything with no risk, IF you remember to hit the darned panic button before you pop.

Not any harder to beat in a fight, it just lives to fight another day more often than any other boat would.

Key point: It is designed for the risk taking.
You won't necessarily win more often, but you will get to try to win more often.

A ship cant jump when pointed so its not a get out of jail card. If youre saying it should be able to jump when pointed gtfo.

The idea of it jumping one system could be interesting but I would couple it with the blops bridge except all jump at one (maybe a 5km area round the Marauder) and it has to be on grid with the gate of the system you want to jump to and you jump into that system on grid with the gate on the other side.

I dunno... marauders should be interesting but they should be run away when you dont like how things are going machines.

I propose this.

The emergency escape portals you into one of the 3 systems in which there was the most ship deaths in the last hour at a random stargate 17 km away from it and flags you suspect.

My jury is out on giving more sub capital hulls jumpdrive... infact, bad move there.

But I am fond of the idea of losing the stupid salvager / tractor beam focus of the marauder and getting a more combat orientated bonuses to replace it with....

In wow terms, it's bubble and hearth. Do you remember how much people hated that?

This is EVE, nothing should ever come without risk. If you give these things a get out of jail free card, people WILL find a way to abuse the hell out of it.

YES, it will jump when pointed, out of cap, anything except being actually destroyed itself.

This is the point of this proposal, to create a ship that can bail out of ANY situation if the pilot prepares the return BM properly.
(This is why it is a BM, since traveling beyond the jump range of any BM is not difficult)

This does not make it invulnerable, just harder to kill.
(IF you know where it is going to jump to, you have possibly one of the easiest ambushes in the game)

It is not a free ride, despite how some suggest it is. It cannot jump into high sec, for example, or systems that are cyno jammed.
(Those should be obvious already)