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Fat-Cat Doctrine: Game Changer

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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#81 - 2013-07-15 11:26:44 UTC  |  Edited by: IbanezLaney
Morgan Torry wrote:

Kiting missile boats are for the Caldari pubbies anyways. .......
........Sad times in Black Rise. Cry




Oh ...

How mean.



EDIT:
I mean - YEAH spot on.
What kind of spaky would do that!!!!
ImmutableDark
Absalom.
#82 - 2013-07-15 13:35:05 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Last night Caldari Admiral Kahn "KAHHHNNNN!!!!" Farshatok took the fight to a whole new level. In one fell swoop he nullified the only two remaining advantages the Gallente had with what our Intelligence Sources are calling the "Fat-Cat Doctrine".

The Fat-Cat is a simple fitted Tristan hull with two objectives: 1) Remove the effect of lousy Caldari pilots from the battle by concentrating as much of the piloting, targeting, and basically everything to the FC, and 2) Deny FDU pilots any worthwhile loot.

Bottom Line: Kahn plans to starve us to death, just like he tried to starve Kirk to death by transporting him to the center of a planet. This is an all-out war of attrition - to the bitter end.

Here is the fit:
[Fat Cat, Tristan]
Small Shield Transporter I
200mm Autocannon Ix2
1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender I
Warp Scrambler I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Overdrive Injector Ix2
Small Capacitor Control Circuit Ix3
8x Tech 1 Drones

The fleet doctrine is brilliant. Set up inside a FW Plex, turn on the MWD, hit "keep at range 500" to the FC, launch drones and assign them to the FC, put the small shield transporter on the FC (since he is the only one actively piloting and targeting anything). And wait. The only thing the fleet members need to do is engage anybody who attacks the FC with their autocannons and scram. "F1" and "F2" isn't very hard - even for a Squid.

What makes this fit a "game changer" however, is the fact that there is no loot that the Federation Militia pilots can use to replenish their ship losses. There is nothing of value here with the sole exception of the Capacitor Control Circuits. In fact, the CCC's cost 3x the rest of the ship. This might sound "moronic" at first, but in reality it's brilliant because rigs don't drop and so an enemy fleet can't use them to resupply their forces. That, coupled with the fact that Gallente are at Tier 1 and cannot make isk in FW, will likely prove to be the last nail in the coffin for the Gallente Militia. We will not be able to endure our losses for much longer.

Difficult times are ahead.


Squids aren't that smart... I've never doubted Khan's genius .... ask anyone you like. The way the church funds it's non-committal cowardly kiting missile ships is a very simple process.

1. I sit in Jita and buy people's souls for 1million isk.
2. Doubt set's into the mind of the sinner who's eternity now belongs to me.
3. The sinner comes to the realisation that I am precisely the last person they want in charge of their eternal soul.
4. We come to an arrangement usually in order of 10bil isk for the return of said soul as it's market value has risen since I've been whoring it out whilst it's been in my possession.
5. Laney uses his bogan beer stare mind trick to swindle my hard earned funds.
6. Laney builds kiting hookbills.
Selmak Kado
The Maverick Navy
#83 - 2013-07-15 13:56:25 UTC
The best Counter against Khan fleets, are Khan jokes :P
Trensk Mikakka
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
#84 - 2013-07-15 20:21:26 UTC
Khan gives me a migrane sometimes, I swear.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#85 - 2013-07-15 23:31:13 UTC
What about Light missile Talwars? And kestrels if you can't use dessies

Light missiles has a great alpha and great damage projection. A large group of t1 fit talwars can easily wipe out a frig gang, and with the high volley damage the tristans wouldn't benefit much from their RR.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#86 - 2013-07-16 02:01:09 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
What about Light missile Talwars? And kestrels if you can't use dessies

Light missiles has a great alpha and great damage projection. A large group of t1 fit talwars can easily wipe out a frig gang, and with the high volley damage the tristans wouldn't benefit much from their RR.


I dont think you understand. We have utterly lost. The only thing left to do is constantly complain to CCP to fix faction war while giving them no suggestions, and at the same time cynically claim that all this conflict is working as intended as though pvp is not the goal of fw but occupancy roleplay is.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#87 - 2013-07-16 12:21:54 UTC
Seems like I don't undestand it then. Nor do I understand how a bunch of tristans can stop you from fighting back.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#88 - 2013-07-16 12:36:27 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Seems like I don't undestand it then. Nor do I understand how a bunch of tristans can stop you from fighting back.


That's because you obviously have not been against such brilliance as this doctrine. Be the EFT warrior all you want, but this is hilariously OP in practice. Just give it a few weeks and RvB will catch on. Break the curve now and start forming fleets of these bad boys yourself and you'll dominate your front as Khan is in Black Rise now.

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#89 - 2013-07-16 14:43:42 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Seems like I don't undestand it then. Nor do I understand how a bunch of tristans can stop you from fighting back.



Imagine being dropped in a bee hive and having 100's of bees stinging you every few seconds.


Doesn't matter how big you are - the chances of killing many of the bees before you die are not good.




Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#90 - 2013-07-16 16:52:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Alpheias
HTFU Gallente scum.

edit: sound effect for added effect.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#91 - 2013-07-20 04:50:45 UTC
The answer is still smartbombs.

You just need to figure out how to all go suspect before warping your SB fleet of overtanked Punishers into the plex.

I would suggest what BUGRY did to get its inaugural T1 haulergeddon enacted in Tama late last year with multiple FW corps involved. Everyone scram the neutral alt while at a planet. Viola! No one loses FW standings.

Trinkets Friendly Research Laboratories calculates that you will need a minimum of six double-SBing Merlins to alpha-smartie the Warrior I's as they close in the for so-called kill.
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#92 - 2013-07-20 08:10:29 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Last night Caldari Admiral Kahn "KAHHHNNNN!!!!" Farshatok took the fight to a whole new level. In one fell swoop he nullified the only two remaining advantages the Gallente had with what our Intelligence Sources are calling the "Fat-Cat Doctrine".

The Fat-Cat is a simple fitted Tristan hull with two objectives: 1) Remove the effect of lousy Caldari pilots from the battle by concentrating as much of the piloting, targeting, and basically everything to the FC, and 2) Deny FDU pilots any worthwhile loot.

Bottom Line: Kahn plans to starve us to death, just like he tried to starve Kirk to death by transporting him to the center of a planet. This is an all-out war of attrition - to the bitter end.

Here is the fit:
[Fat Cat, Tristan]
Small Shield Transporter I
200mm Autocannon Ix2
1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender I
Warp Scrambler I
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Overdrive Injector Ix2
Small Capacitor Control Circuit Ix3
8x Tech 1 Drones

The fleet doctrine is brilliant. Set up inside a FW Plex, turn on the MWD, hit "keep at range 500" to the FC, launch drones and assign them to the FC, put the small shield transporter on the FC (since he is the only one actively piloting and targeting anything). And wait. The only thing the fleet members need to do is engage anybody who attacks the FC with their autocannons and scram. "F1" and "F2" isn't very hard - even for a Squid.

What makes this fit a "game changer" however, is the fact that there is no loot that the Federation Militia pilots can use to replenish their ship losses. There is nothing of value here with the sole exception of the Capacitor Control Circuits. In fact, the CCC's cost 3x the rest of the ship. This might sound "moronic" at first, but in reality it's brilliant because rigs don't drop and so an enemy fleet can't use them to resupply their forces. That, coupled with the fact that Gallente are at Tier 1 and cannot make isk in FW, will likely prove to be the last nail in the coffin for the Gallente Militia. We will not be able to endure our losses for much longer.

Difficult times are ahead.
This is now called the "Copperhead Doctrine Fleet". I have named it, it is so.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac

Theroine
Pew Pew Pirates
#93 - 2013-07-21 11:12:52 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Imagine being dropped in a bee hive and having 100's of bees stinging you every few seconds.

Not the bees!!!