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WOW "suspect" -level = podable in secure space

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#61 - 2013-07-14 02:39:44 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
So, that was an eye opener. It's bad enough that emptying a yellow can or wreck now makes your ship everyone's target (instead of just those members of the corp whose can or wreck you emptied) but they can pod you in secure space on top of that? When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.


My Mack pilot has a kill board thanks to the new suspect mechanics.

Nothing like podding some fool either because he's a real bad ganker or just thinks I won't go after his indy with a flight of Valkyrie IIs when he's looting my wrecks.

One of the best changes ever!

Mr Epeen Cool
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2013-07-14 02:51:29 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
most games are a game of BALANCED consequenses. this change is way out of balance.


Most games suck.
Yavanni
Unises Inc.
#63 - 2013-07-14 03:01:28 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
"I didn't bother reading any patch notes and now I'm being attacked by meanies because I did something bad."

Eve is a game of consequences, deal with it.


most games are a game of BALANCED consequenses. this change is way out of balance.


It's balanced in the sense that you know what you're doing is a crime and CHOOSE to do it. Because you CHOOSE to do it, there's consequences.

Cause and Effect.

If you still want to be a criminal, operating in protected space, don't blame anyone else for that choice. You choose to be a criminal, and the life of a criminal is living on the run and every law enforcement coming after you.


my post isn't about "every law enforcement coming after you" its about every tom, **** and harry coming after you.


What did you think would come after you, Tinkerbell? Lol

as stated in an earlier post, what I expected to come after me was anyone in the corp of the capsuleer who left the yellow can or wreck. I expected the security or threat countdown to indicate that some specific individual or group had a right to come after me - NOT everyone.
Yavanni
Unises Inc.
#64 - 2013-07-14 03:05:30 UTC
Verunae Caseti wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
most games are a game of BALANCED consequenses. this change is way out of balance.


Most games suck.



Most of everything sucks. If you want a name for it, call it the rule of Mediocrity.
Verunae Caseti
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2013-07-14 03:14:01 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
Most of everything sucks. If you want a name for it, call it the rule of Mediocrity.


Exactly; so let's not drag EVE down to their level by demanding BALANCE over everything else, eh?
Psychoactive Stimulant
#66 - 2013-07-14 03:26:33 UTC
inb4 Sublime Rage

HTFU
Ziphis
Dingus Coalition
HYPE-TRAIN
#67 - 2013-07-14 05:24:57 UTC
All this from the mind who gave you ARMOR RAVEN!!

http://zkillboard.com/detail/-4884501/

sorry had to be linked....Yeah...don't steal die and whine....I think there was a thread like this awhile back. (Stay docked after stealing and yes this included those wrecks you salvage from xD from your fits you look like a cloak ninja salvage alt.

He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in wet copper armour shouting 'All the Gods are bastards.'  - T. Pratchett
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#68 - 2013-07-14 05:41:48 UTC
Ziphis wrote:
All this from the mind who gave you ARMOR RAVEN!!

http://zkillboard.com/detail/-4884501/

sorry had to be linked....Yeah...don't steal die and whine....I think there was a thread like this awhile back. (Stay docked after stealing and yes this included those wrecks you salvage from xD from your fits you look like a cloak ninja salvage alt.

Good to see that someone put that abomination out of its misery, it definitely needed killing with fire.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Feyd's Survival Pack
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#69 - 2013-07-14 06:52:33 UTC
Ziphis wrote:
All this from the mind who gave you ARMOR RAVEN!!

http://zkillboard.com/detail/-4884501/

sorry had to be linked....Yeah...don't steal die and whine....I think there was a thread like this awhile back. (Stay docked after stealing and yes this included those wrecks you salvage from xD from your fits you look like a cloak ninja salvage alt.


While I find the OP silly, seeing as how the suspect/limited engagement podding was implemented 6 months ago, your attempt to attack his intelligence through a terrible loss mail falls short since that is from 2008. You are linking a loss mail 5 years old. I don't know many people who didn't have terrible fits early in their EVE careers. I have several myself.

But yes, always get your pod out. This fact is not new.

Member of the Pink Pony Killboard Padding Alliance
Matt Petirov
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#70 - 2013-07-14 10:46:07 UTC
..Is he complaining about eve being hard?

..wat


...waaaatt
Matt Petirov
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#71 - 2013-07-14 10:46:56 UTC
OH MY GOD JUST SAW DA ARMOR RAVEN
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#72 - 2013-07-14 11:12:27 UTC
Yavanni wrote:

as stated in an earlier post, what I expected to come after me was anyone in the corp of the capsuleer who left the yellow can or wreck. I expected the security or threat countdown to indicate that some specific individual or group had a right to come after me - NOT everyone.


So you want EvE to play easier than WoW, where even the king's dog is raid level in that game.

If EvE is to be tougher than PvE games, it's guards need to prove they are tougher than a dog!!!

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#73 - 2013-07-14 11:49:13 UTC
I love it when AFK miners have their drones autoattack me. It makes podkilling them legal (even though CONCORD still come and splatter me for blowing up their ship, but I don't lose sec for the pod).

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#74 - 2013-07-14 12:21:48 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
I love it when AFK miners have their drones autoattack me. It makes podkilling them legal (even though CONCORD still come and splatter me for blowing up their ship, but I don't lose sec for the pod).


More risk averse PvP, and a PvPer bragging about it.

Yes, please show the world how easy EvE is to play even compared to PvE games.

Don't ever claim EvE is harder to play than even WoW. It's dogs bite back more than CONCORD.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Vega Umbranox
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2013-07-14 22:06:04 UTC
i agree tbh i think you shouldnt be able to be podded from suspect timer in highsec. GCC yes
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
#76 - 2013-07-14 23:01:55 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
So, that was an eye opener. It's bad enough that emptying a yellow can or wreck now makes your ship everyone's target (instead of just those members of the corp whose can or wreck you emptied) but they can pod you in secure space on top of that? When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.


Read through this thread before answering, and you seem to be equating podkilling with actual killing. Podkilling, since you are functionally immortal in the game through cloning, is more like a stern intervention. Maybe like tripping you or punching you or something like that to stop you as you run away with someone's purse. Which folks IRL do quite often. The yellow flashy tag is, in effect, someone yelling "Stop, thief!".

The scenario you want - you steal from someone, and only they or their close associates can intervene. So, if they are alone and/or unable to respond you can freely and openly walk over to the next target, in full view of a crowd of people, steal their stuff, and so on. Indefinitely, if you pick your targets well. Which is mind-bogglingly unrealistic.

The new crimewatch is far more realistic, once you get over the bizarre equating of podkilling with actual death. People who are gunned down IRL don't just waltz out of a clone bay a few seconds later a bit poorer for the experience.

Actual thieves usually have to run and hide for a bit after committing a theft. It's a skill you might want to learn if you wish to continue your career as a thief.
Tiber Ibis
The Paratwa Ka
#77 - 2013-07-15 11:16:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiber Ibis
Radius Prime wrote:
Tiber Ibis wrote:
Yavanni wrote:
And I thought it was only like this in the USA. Sorry to hear that Belgium has gone the way of the pampered perpetrator as well.

As another poster put it, a lot of this is right wing political spin. Don't make any judgements until you have some direct experience to back up you claims. Listening and believing what politicians tell you is worse than remaining ignorant.


Where is the politician? I read the newspaper who reported on the trial. Should we introduce censorship Mr Lenin? You do what you want but I would die twice and then again defending my kids from harm. This man is innocent. People like you make me feel ashamed for voting socialist. Extremism is always bad whether it is right wing or in your case left wing...

Radius

And so newspapers aren't politically affiliated then? And all stories in the newspaper must be true? lol stop being so naïve. Also you seem to have misunderstood. I'm not saying prisoners should have it easy, but I am just saying that you shouldn't believe everything you read or hear.

So again, I think the village idiot should go back to his kids and not get involved in political debates when he knows nothing except for a few snippets he has read from a newspaper article. You make me ashamed, and people like you are the reason why politicians believe they can blatantly lie and spin us all their crap, because the village idiots like yourself actually believe and vote for them.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#78 - 2013-07-15 11:25:01 UTC
Cry more.

The Tears Must Flow
Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#79 - 2013-07-15 12:34:23 UTC
Yavanni wrote:
So, that was an eye opener. It's bad enough that emptying a yellow can or wreck now makes your ship everyone's target (instead of just those members of the corp whose can or wreck you emptied) but they can pod you in secure space on top of that? When did EVE become so eXtreme? This seems WAY over the top to me.



Ah.. what is that hideous thing in the picture? And seriously no one called you a troll.. cause to me this smells like trolling.. Or you are just a plain idiot that took off the safety and got owned.. Lesson learned tho if you aren't trolling, troll.
Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#80 - 2013-07-15 12:39:49 UTC
Podding is available, but its PURELY up to the pilot to try to....

...so they are the ones being, WAY over the top to you

Cosmic signature detected. . . . http://i.imgur.com/Z7NfIS6.jpg I got 99 likes, and this post aint one.