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CCP do you know who are the customers?

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Peter Tjordenskiold
#1 - 2013-07-14 17:48:42 UTC
We are now for many weeks in B-D Cloud Ring. CCP you told us, you follow the Players close.Instead we are getting heavy TiDi even with 50 pilots in system. That isn't funny for all sides in this war. When we get through the gate into J5A a lesser used system a miracle happens. Tidi is gone in J5A.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#2 - 2013-07-14 18:12:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
TiDi is working as intended. When the server is under heavy load, it goes into TiDi... that's a feature, not a bug or a glitch. Maybe you're new here, but the alternative used to be debilitating server lag (actual lag, not the carefully controlled time dilation), module failure, random disconnections, and node crashes.

B-D, or whatever system you have TiDi in with 50 pilots isn't alone on the server it runs on, and it won't be unless you fill out a fleet fight notification. There must be a heavy load elsewhere on the same node. If there actually isn't, then you can try filling out a bug report. Shitting all over the forums like a child isn't going to do anything.

TL;DR

Stop ******* whining.

Katrina Oniseki
Laura Dmitri
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-07-14 18:25:44 UTC
Some enterprising players probably found out what node BD is on, and parked their alts in one of the other systems on the node.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-07-14 18:32:19 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
TiDi is working as intended. When the server is under heavy load, it goes into TiDi... that's a feature, not a bug or a glitch. Maybe you're new here, but the alternative used to be debilitating server lag (actual lag, not the carefully controlled time dilation), module failure, random disconnections, and node crashes.


So players have to deal with rubberbanding and worse, because this is a 2004 tech answer to one world.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell
Ginger Barbarella
#5 - 2013-07-14 18:40:59 UTC
Peter Tjordenskiold wrote:
We are now for many weeks in B-D Cloud Ring. CCP you told us, you follow the Players close.Instead we are getting heavy TiDi even with 50 pilots in system. That isn't funny for all sides in this war. When we get through the gate into J5A a lesser used system a miracle happens. Tidi is gone in J5A.


You wouldn't have this frustration if you were mining in 1.0 in an out-of-the-way system.

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-07-14 18:55:33 UTC
Peter Tjordenskiold wrote:
We are now for many weeks in B-D Cloud Ring. CCP you told us, you follow the Players close.Instead we are getting heavy TiDi even with 50 pilots in system. That isn't funny for all sides in this war. When we get through the gate into J5A a lesser used system a miracle happens. Tidi is gone in J5A.


When was the last time there was only 50 players in B-D? And about the lag: https://twitter.com/erlendur/status/356477254919929857 :

"All the other solarsystems on that node combined are 8% CPU, you would still see TiDi undocking 1200 people."

The amount of people in space don't matter much (unless they are shooting) - the amount of people logging in/docking/undocking/jumping in/jumping out are what's causing the heavy TiDi.

Yes, it sucks having to wait 10 minutes till you can join the fleet. But the technology doesn't seem to be available just now to ensure a better experience.
Six Six Six
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-07-14 19:10:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Six Six
Peter Tjordenskiold wrote:
CCP do you know who are the customers?


Of course they do, what a silly question.
Reppyk
The Black Shell
#8 - 2013-07-14 19:19:18 UTC
Stop blobbing O/ O/ O/ O/ O/ O/ O/

I AM SPACE CAPTAIN REPPYK. BEWARE.

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Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#9 - 2013-07-14 20:20:28 UTC
Ah, good thing I'm a carebear, never have to worry about neck beard issues.

Filthy casual scum wins again.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#10 - 2013-07-14 21:18:24 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:

So players have to deal with rubberbanding and worse, because this is a 2004 tech answer to one world.


Please name another game where you have thousands of players all doing something at the same time in the same place on the same server, in real time.

I'd really like to know what other games have flawless performance under that kind of load.

Katrina Oniseki
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-07-14 21:22:38 UTC
Ace Uoweme wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
TiDi is working as intended. When the server is under heavy load, it goes into TiDi... that's a feature, not a bug or a glitch. Maybe you're new here, but the alternative used to be debilitating server lag (actual lag, not the carefully controlled time dilation), module failure, random disconnections, and node crashes.


So players have to deal with rubberbanding and worse, because this is a 2004 tech answer to one world.



It's easy to say things l;ike that when you don't have to pay for a better solution. Yes 1 node per system would be cool and stop big fight in system A fro causing TIDI in system B but that would also cost a metric ass ton of money.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#12 - 2013-07-14 21:27:57 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:

It's easy to say things l;ike that when you don't have to pay for a better solution. Yes 1 node per system would be cool and stop big fight in system A fro causing TIDI in system B but that would also cost a metric ass ton of money.


It also isn't something that works. Jita is on its own reinforced node and it still hits 90% (10% slower than normal speed) TiDi fairly frequently. Hell, during Burn Jita, it got hit so hard CONCORD was shooting the wrong people.

Eventually, the capacity for players to crowd a system will outmatch any server's ability to process it.

Katrina Oniseki
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-07-14 22:57:39 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:

It's easy to say things l;ike that when you don't have to pay for a better solution. Yes 1 node per system would be cool and stop big fight in system A fro causing TIDI in system B but that would also cost a metric ass ton of money.


It also isn't something that works. Jita is on its own reinforced node and it still hits 90% (10% slower than normal speed) TiDi fairly frequently. Hell, during Burn Jita, it got hit so hard CONCORD was shooting the wrong people.

Eventually, the capacity for players to crowd a system will outmatch any server's ability to process it.


Of copurse it's not perfect but Jita TIDI only affect Jita and no other system. That would technically be a gain. At a ******** cost but still a gain...
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-07-14 23:13:50 UTC
Peter Tjordenskiold wrote:
We are now for many weeks in B-D Cloud Ring. CCP you told us, you follow the Players close.Instead we are getting heavy TiDi even with 50 pilots in system. That isn't funny for all sides in this war. When we get through the gate into J5A a lesser used system a miracle happens. Tidi is gone in J5A.


You're an embarrassment to your alliance.

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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#15 - 2013-07-15 01:49:01 UTC
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