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New Launcher Forces Poor Security
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Debaser
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-07-14 13:22:07 UTC
The new launcher (at least the Mac client) doesn't allow PASTE into the password field.

This caters only to two types of users:

1. Users dumb enough to be able to use a memorable password (don't paste the XKCD comic)
2. Users dumb enough to reuse passwords and thus have a difficult password memorized

Please, CCP - connect the PASTE macro to the password form.
Multor Kaston
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-07-14 13:25:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Multor Kaston
Debaser wrote:
The new launcher (at least the Mac client) doesn't allow PASTE into the password field.

This caters only to two types of users:

1. Users dumb enough to be able to use a memorable password (don't paste the XKCD comic)
2. Users dumb enough to reuse passwords and thus have a difficult password memorized

Please, CCP - connect the PASTE macro to the password form.
I'm not understanding, why is it dumb to have a regular style password that one can remember?
Example: tgimcd1819

Why would that be a bad idea?

Thanks.
Rengerel en Distel
#3 - 2013-07-14 13:27:27 UTC
Just because you can't memorize various 12 character alphanumeric passwords doesn't mean the rest of us can't.

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J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-07-14 13:31:50 UTC
the pc version supports ctrl-v just not the right click, paste function .. dunno if mac has a similar option
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#5 - 2013-07-14 13:36:54 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Just because you can't memorize various 12 character alphanumeric passwords doesn't mean the rest of us can't.


TBH 12 is not a lot by today's computing standards. I have 32 chars passwords including digits, punctuation and so on for most of what I do.

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Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-07-14 13:37:10 UTC
Debaser wrote:
2. Users dumb enough to reuse passwords and thus have a difficult password memorized

Please, CCP - connect the PASTE macro to the password form.


I don't reuse passwords. And Windows makes you type in your password at login anyway...and mine is pretty damn long (they claim it'll take about 30 years of brute force hacking to crack it).

The trick with passwords is making them mean something that only you know. Time, location, even the feel. You'll always remember the password, and others will have no idea of it, as they don't share the same memories (and even if you grow old and get dementia or Alzheimer's, long term memory isn't affected).

That is how you remember even numerous l-o-n-g passwords to type manually.

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Noriko Mai
#7 - 2013-07-14 14:00:52 UTC
[..] at least the Mac client [..] Users dumb enough [..] ...

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Zane Tekitsu
The Munitions Miracle Network
#8 - 2013-07-14 14:07:54 UTC
I am not sure what you are getting at... You want people to be in the habit of using "strong" alphanumeric passwords, but you want the purpose to be defeated by having that pass stored in plain text in multiple areas that may or may not be secure?

Also, these threads are getting old, and I don't even like the launcher...

X:\Program Files\CCP\bin\exefile.exe -(or)-
X:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\bin\exefile.exe

Right click > Send to desktop (Create Shortcut.)
Run that.
That is all you need to do.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2013-07-14 14:09:20 UTC
Debaser wrote:
The new launcher (at least the Mac client) doesn't allow PASTE into the password field.

This caters only to two types of users:

1. Users dumb enough to be able to use a memorable password (don't paste the XKCD comic)
2. Users dumb enough to reuse passwords and thus have a difficult password memorized

Please, CCP - connect the PASTE macro to the password form.

Speak for yourself, 17 digit alphanumeric password here, that's not on a post-it note stuck under my keyboard (I've seen this in various places I've worked), and would be complete gibberish to anyone other than me.

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darmwand
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-07-14 14:29:29 UTC
https://xkcd.com/936/

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-07-14 14:41:31 UTC
ctrl v

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Noddy Comet
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#12 - 2013-07-14 15:19:11 UTC
Zane Tekitsu wrote:
I am not sure what you are getting at... You want people to be in the habit of using "strong" alphanumeric passwords, but you want the purpose to be defeated by having that pass stored in plain text in multiple areas that may or may not be secure?

Also, these threads are getting old, and I don't even like the launcher...

X:\Program Files\CCP\bin\exefile.exe -(or)-
X:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\bin\exefile.exe

Right click > Send to desktop (Create Shortcut.)
Run that.
That is all you need to do.



Way to pay attention....

Quote:
The new launcher (at least the Mac client) doesn't allow PASTE into the password field.

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Ciyrine
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-07-14 15:31:28 UTC
Noddy Comet wrote:
Zane Tekitsu wrote:
I am not sure what you are getting at... You want people to be in the habit of using "strong" alphanumeric passwords, but you want the purpose to be defeated by having that pass stored in plain text in multiple areas that may or may not be secure?

Also, these threads are getting old, and I don't even like the launcher...

X:\Program Files\CCP\bin\exefile.exe -(or)-
X:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\bin\exefile.exe

Right click > Send to desktop (Create Shortcut.)
Run that.
That is all you need to do.



Way to pay attention....

Quote:
The new launcher (at least the Mac client) doesn't allow PASTE into the password field.


way to be clueless. hes showing you the exefile option which you can use to start the game without using the launcher at all.
Verran 'Firefox' Severasse
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-07-14 15:35:29 UTC
Because keyloggers and spyware never check the text on the clipboard..
Ginger Barbarella
#15 - 2013-07-14 16:04:55 UTC
Debaser wrote:
The new launcher (at least the Mac client) doesn't allow PASTE into the password field.

This caters only to two types of users:

1. Users dumb enough to be able to use a memorable password (don't paste the XKCD comic)
2. Users dumb enough to reuse passwords and thus have a difficult password memorized

Please, CCP - connect the PASTE macro to the password form.



Wow. I'm stunned at the amazingly low intelligence of threads today. Must be something in the air.

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Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#16 - 2013-07-14 16:07:53 UTC
Debaser wrote:
The new launcher (at least the Mac client) doesn't allow PASTE into the password field.

This caters only to two types of users:

1. Users dumb enough to be able to use a memorable password (don't paste the XKCD comic)
2. Users dumb enough to reuse passwords and thus have a difficult password memorized

Please, CCP - connect the PASTE macro to the password form.


Or those of us who can actually remember more than 5 letters/numbers in a row...
And lol at cutting and pasting, as if your computer were perfectly secure....Shocked

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Zane Tekitsu
The Munitions Miracle Network
#17 - 2013-07-14 16:34:45 UTC
Noddy Comet wrote:
Zane Tekitsu wrote:
I am not sure what you are getting at... You want people to be in the habit of using "strong" alphanumeric passwords, but you want the purpose to be defeated by having that pass stored in plain text in multiple areas that may or may not be secure?

Also, these threads are getting old, and I don't even like the launcher...

X:\Program Files\CCP\bin\exefile.exe -(or)-
X:\Program Files (x86)\CCP\bin\exefile.exe

Right click > Send to desktop (Create Shortcut.)
Run that.
That is all you need to do.



Way to pay attention....

Quote:
The new launcher (at least the Mac client) doesn't allow PASTE into the password field.


So you point the windows environment software to [Eve Online package]/Contents/Resources/transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/CCP/bin/exefile?

Mac users correct me where I am wrong, as I want to have a cookie-cutter response to be rid of this 'launcher required to play the game' myth.

I will have to refresh my memory on dealing in *nix systems when I get home.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-07-14 17:19:03 UTC
Verran 'Firefox' Severasse wrote:
Because keyloggers and spyware never check the text on the clipboard..

Clearly we should all just use on-screen keyboards.

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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-07-14 17:27:53 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Verran 'Firefox' Severasse wrote:
Because keyloggers and spyware never check the text on the clipboard..

Clearly we should all just use on-screen keyboards.


Remember to randomize the character mapping first, you never know is someone is looking you over the shoulder when you type the password.

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Muestereate
Minions LLC
#20 - 2013-07-14 17:28:56 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Verran 'Firefox' Severasse wrote:
Because keyloggers and spyware never check the text on the clipboard..

Clearly we should all just use on-screen keyboards.

Or Biometric links to our brain underneath a tinfoil cap
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