Warfare & Tactics

im kinda torn between caldari and gallente for my character, I like difrent things about both so I guess my deciding factor will be,

is caldari or gallente more newbie friendly when it comes to pvp?

thanks for any helpful insight

The faction you join has no impact on this. The people you choose to fly with are where you should be spending your time.

TBH now more than ever all races are equal in their 'easyness' for noobs.

Pick the race you like the 'idea', looks or weapons of as they are all very capable.

All of the above notwithstanding...

Your race has no effect on pvp skills (aside from a few hours of free training) or ease.

You can fly any race's ships. You can use any weapon system. Asking which race is better for new PVPers is not a valid question. The right question is whether any of the weapon systems (or perhaps hull types) are more newbie friendly. Some people have already posited answers to this question. The race you choose will only decide which racial frigate and weapon system you get a few hours of free training for.

IMO, missiles are the most newbie-friendly pvp weapon system in the game. What makes it newbie-friendly is that there is less to keep track of (especially in the kinetic bonused hulls, like the Condor, as your damage type is 95% chosen for you). Missiles have great damage projection, so it's easier to keep DPS on target. With turrets, you need to be concerned with tracking and transversal. Not so with missiles. The less you have to keep up with, the more newbie-friendly it is.

Going with missiles is also a timely move as turrets are subject to tracking disruption. The current "flavor of the month" is TDs, so you are far more likely than ever to encounter ships fit with them, which can really manhandle turret boats. TDs don't work on missile boats, so all you have to watch out for are damps. Interesting missile boat hulls to train for? Condor, Kestrel, Breacher for frigates, then Corax and Talwar for destroyers. Later on you can train into stealth bombers (all 4 use torpedoes), Caracal for a cheap but effective cruiser, Drake and Prophecy for BCs, and of course the infamous Tengu. Also, as you become more proficient and able to juggle tasks, you can take advantage of the only weapon system with 100% flexible damage type (explosive, kinetic, thermal, or em).

As for newbie-friendly hulls, I'd say that T1 destroyers and T1 cruisers are the easiest to pilot while making a real difference on the field. Frigates are great, and learning how to fly them is essential, but destroyers are pretty much 1-button death machines when faced with 1 or 2 frigates. Cruisers, fitted properly, are the best compromise hull in the game. Enough DPS to matter, enough EHP to allow them to stay on field , enough slots to make them highly flexible, agile enough for most circumstances, cheap enough for most players to replace easily.

Realistically however, you will probably end up training turret skills as well. There are just too many cool turret platforms to not partake in their goodness.

OP, you question is a little vague. Do you mean which faction is more newb friendly? Or are you asking which race of ships to fly?

I say this because you can fly Caldari ships even while fighting in the Gallente militia, and vice versa. If you are new it may seem that you have to focus on one tanking style. However, this is not true. It really does not take much time to train the two tanking types. It is the weapon types where you will have to invest more time.

The best advice for any player is to take a traditionally armor race, train it, and also take a traditionally shield race and train it also. Thus you could train Amarr and Minmatar, Amarr and Caldari, Gallente and Minmatar, etc. And lo and behold you can train Gallente and Caldari ships. An advantage of this pairing is that each use hybrid guns. Their second weapon systems differ in that Gallente add drone boats, while Caldari add missile boats. You will likely have around 17million skill points at the end of your first year. Having two races trained gives you options. You will need options.

Both militias are filled with people of varying skill and experience. I guess all the races can be or might not be newb friendly. What will be more important is the corp you will join. Some corps are very strict about sp requirements and the ships they expect you to fly. This will go for corps in either faction.

Basically, join a militia. Look for fleet ops that are open to all militia but being run mainly by a FW corp. Become known for showing up to fight, and not being a pita on fleet voice comms. You may receive an offer to apply to a corp. Or you will get to know the corps and people in them and know that way which of them would be best for you.

Being an amphibian, I will of course tell you that Gallente is better. But many a mollusk has fun as well I must admit. Whatever you do try to live in lowsec.

The highsec huggers in either faction are rather dreary to listen to. "Is the (highsec) station being camped or is the _____ gate being camped?" (where the _____ gate is always perma camped and you want to shake the questioner and say look dummy get a second account and scout your own ships to a lowsec home). "I just lost my ship and now have to fly all the back to ______ (highsec haven far away) to get a new one, will I be able to get back to the fight in time?" (invariably the answer is no and get your ships to the warfront you dummy). Etc.

You will lose ships. Get a buttload of frigs. Get a few destroyers and cruisers. Don't go out in a BC or faction ship that will depress you when it goes boom (which it will), until you have more sp and more knowledge and experience in the warzone.

So the choices are yours to make. Have fun.

OP, you question is a little vague. Do you mean which faction is more newb friendly? Or are you asking which race of ships to fly?


I meant witch race of ships to fly, ive already decided witch militia I wish to join, its just picking what I want to fight in.,

I think ill do what 1 of you mentioned, go caldari to get frigs 5, cruisers 5, train into missils and hybrids till t2 mediums, then go gallente ships till cruisers 5

I think ill do that, the kitsune looks fun aswell, for later anyway =)

Quite sure i've killed stabbed scrubs from every faction but alright.

lol I have no intentions of fitting warp core stabalizers, even if I fly caldari, when i fight I win or I leave in my pod, the reason im so hesitant about galente is u have to be up some1s poopshoot to hit them with blasters and I bet most people wouldent let me get that close, rails.. well idk about rails (caldari 10% bonus to optimal is nice)

could you give me an idea or 2 of how? I was flirting with ideas of AB shops with scram/web but not sure if that would actualy work, any idea? and if u have any other ideas im more then happy to take sugestions =)