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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#81 - 2013-07-11 08:29:40 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
So your telling n00bs not to take that forty million just sitting in that L3 Boss wreck? I dont think you quite know what you are on about..You mentioned the scorp, without saying how useless the normal version is for L4s. Dafuq..


What mission drops 40 million loot in a boss wreck? Please enlighten us.

Scorp is a great ship if you use the mid slots for tank. It can out tank a raven any day.



Im sorry i cant remember the specific mission but there is one.


Do me a favor and please make a note of that mission. I have found some rare items myself running level 1 missions with agents that give you loot which is highly valuable in contracts, and i sold one item for around 20 million. The mission is a chain of 3 and it's the 3 out of 3 that has the item. Ofcourse I have to fail the mission and not deliver the item, but worth it!!!!


You can actually find an implant worth around 50m isk, in either "Damsel in distress" or "The right hand of Zazzmatazz" on Zor's Wreck. found 3 so far. Although that was quite some time ago, so CCP might have changed that.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#82 - 2013-07-11 17:55:01 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
So your telling n00bs not to take that forty million just sitting in that L3 Boss wreck? I dont think you quite know what you are on about..You mentioned the scorp, without saying how useless the normal version is for L4s. Dafuq..


What mission drops 40 million loot in a boss wreck? Please enlighten us.

Scorp is a great ship if you use the mid slots for tank. It can out tank a raven any day.



Im sorry i cant remember the specific mission but there is one.


Do me a favor and please make a note of that mission. I have found some rare items myself running level 1 missions with agents that give you loot which is highly valuable in contracts, and i sold one item for around 20 million. The mission is a chain of 3 and it's the 3 out of 3 that has the item. Ofcourse I have to fail the mission and not deliver the item, but worth it!!!!


You can actually find an implant worth around 50m isk, in either "Damsel in distress" or "The right hand of Zazzmatazz" on Zor's Wreck. found 3 so far. Although that was quite some time ago, so CCP might have changed that.


Scarlet recently dropped an 8 million implant from the Dread Pirate Scarlet mission, but you have to alpha her or she zips out.
I didn't know it was possible to alpha her with missiles. Maybe it was a glitch.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#83 - 2013-07-11 22:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyndrogen
Akita T wrote:
Stuff to do
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

My ancient thread
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=774785

The revamped semiofficial version
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Making_ISK



great resources as always, but I wanted to hide all the other ways and focus on ONE trunk before branching out.

This trunk has generated steady income over longer periods of time for me personally better then any other activity I tried, and I have played everything from wormholes ops to null ratting, PI, mining, FW, hauling etc etc etc.

Idea here is to give a way for new players to generate their own ISK and gear from ONE activity before branching out into other professions. It's military oriented with a focus on missiles and shields.

LV4 + salvaging (not LV3 and salvaging) has generated the most profit, I have also added PI, research agents and market orders to the mix.


My monthly potential is around a billion a month via missions alone. My standings are above 8.0 for Caldari State and I have access to ALL level 4 and level 5 agents. This pays for plex, insurance and modules. The better my skills become the less ships I lose, the more ISK flows into my account and I control how I manage that flow. My skill training is now mostly 10 days or longer which means fewer skill books I need to acquire, so less overall ISK sink.

I tried lv5 missions as well and while they are great, they can be slowed down by locals and pirates. Dscan is also much more important on lv5 missions.

FW is also very interesting but unpredictable and requires more effort and attention plus limits your freedom even in highsec.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
Onquaber
Back To High-sec Inc.
#84 - 2013-07-11 22:50:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Onquaber
cyndrogen wrote:
This guide assumes that

This plan is based on a two month skill plan. This means you will have to pay for two months of eve online out of pocket until you can start earning enough ISK to purchase a plex.



In the third month (if not earlier) you realize the pve of this game is so boring and it feels like a job and not a game anymore.
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#85 - 2013-07-11 23:15:36 UTC
Onquaber wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
This guide assumes that

This plan is based on a two month skill plan. This means you will have to pay for two months of eve online out of pocket until you can start earning enough ISK to purchase a plex.



In the third month (if not earlier) you realize the pve of this game is so boring and it feels like a job and not a game anymore.


Eve is not a game. It's >

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2013-08-03 02:54:47 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
Quote:
caracal (HM) / drake(HM) / scorpion(cruise) / raven(cruise)
LOLWUT? OP trying to create new darwins in this game? Also what others have already said: Dominix is currently king of mission running in terms of cost/effectiveness. 800 eft dps from Garde II on 85-99km optimal is not a joke.
I have a repper Domi that does all that DPS and can lock at 102km (warden IIs) and can run 3 reppers with the sacrifice of some tank. I realize that this is a thread for newbies, but training for a mission Domi will lead to even more Domitastic builds. A very good choice for your money making pathway. You can branch into other stuff once you have an established way to farm ISK. I agree that you should not loot L1-L3 missions while training up your new toon. But L4s are worth it IMO. Maybe somebody already said this, but you can let your salvage drones mop up wrecks while you loot the BSs from the mission. It's efficient if you pay attention to a "looting route". And whoever said to leave the garbage for the buzzards was correct too - it's not so effcicient to loot ALL wrecks - cherry pick for best profits overall. Have fun getting rich !
My only objection to the domi is an aesthetic one.... it looks..... well, I have no idea what it looks like, wheres the front? Where's the back? If you turn it upside down which way is up? It's a shapeless ship. Raven has that tumor on it's side which I don't like either but it looks more badass. Scorpion was a vast improvement. Domi needs a facelift also IMHO. Domi looks like a bad product design for a CD player from Sony.... I'm a visual artist I care about shapes.

Sort of resurrecting this thread:
Most of us Domi pilots think of them as inflated blow dryers. They have Princess Leia hair buns placed like hub caps on the sides - very chic. And you can tell where the front is by the direction of travel, duh!

In reality I had a lot of trouble figuring out where the front was when I first got one.

Aesthetics aside, assassins don't buy an AK-47 for the looks. They buy it because it is effective. Same with the Domi.
MacKael
Perkone
Caldari State
#87 - 2013-08-03 06:06:23 UTC
Sex Slave Girl wrote:
Play gallente with sentry drones. Saves you tons of ammo.




And isk. Most level 4 missions take me 15 mins or less t2 sentries oh huh yeah.
MacKael
Perkone
Caldari State
#88 - 2013-08-03 06:09:53 UTC  |  Edited by: MacKael
Urgg Boolean wrote:
cyndrogen wrote:
Urgg Boolean wrote:
Sarmatiko wrote:
Quote:
caracal (HM) / drake(HM) / scorpion(cruise) / raven(cruise)
LOLWUT? OP trying to create new darwins in this game? Also what others have already said: Dominix is currently king of mission running in terms of cost/effectiveness. 800 eft dps from Garde II on 85-99km optimal is not a joke.
I have a repper Domi that does all that DPS and can lock at 102km (warden IIs) and can run 3 reppers with the sacrifice of some tank. I realize that this is a thread for newbies, but training for a mission Domi will lead to even more Domitastic builds. A very good choice for your money making pathway. You can branch into other stuff once you have an established way to farm ISK. I agree that you should not loot L1-L3 missions while training up your new toon. But L4s are worth it IMO. Maybe somebody already said this, but you can let your salvage drones mop up wrecks while you loot the BSs from the mission. It's efficient if you pay attention to a "looting route". And whoever said to leave the garbage for the buzzards was correct too - it's not so effcicient to loot ALL wrecks - cherry pick for best profits overall. Have fun getting rich !
My only objection to the domi is an aesthetic one.... it looks..... well, I have no idea what it looks like, wheres the front? Where's the back? If you turn it upside down which way is up? It's a shapeless ship. Raven has that tumor on it's side which I don't like either but it looks more badass. Scorpion was a vast improvement. Domi needs a facelift also IMHO. Domi looks like a bad product design for a CD player from Sony.... I'm a visual artist I care about shapes.

Sort of resurrecting this thread:
Most of us Domi pilots think of them as inflated blow dryers. They have Princess Leia hair buns placed like hub caps on the sides - very chic. And you can tell where the front is by the direction of travel, duh!

In reality I had a lot of trouble figuring out where the front was when I first got one.

Aesthetics aside, assassins don't buy an AK-47 for the looks. They buy it because it is effective. Same with the Domi.




Mjd + t2 sentries I use warden, then two sebo for range. Ad the rest drone damage,range mods rigs. Locking at 260 km hitting at 500+ every time from 180 km. weeeeee domi is hands down king of missions runners. Also forgot to mention the 900+ dps
Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#89 - 2013-08-03 22:48:44 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
...GRIND...GET GEAR



OOORRRR one shift flipping burgers > buy plex > sell plex > have billions

Then what? Op success? Uninstall EvE?
Before i got cured of the isk hunger, i would rat lowsec and melt the loot. Then turrets in loot was nerfed.
Then i made 800 million shooting npc haulers between missions in lowsec. Npc hauler loot got nerfed.
Now i just feel poor without 2 bil in the wallet as well as assets.

Srsly, maxin ya wallet is a low aim to set yourself.


Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2013-08-03 23:08:38 UTC
Sub Tzero wrote:
"Invest in a clear path that is PVP oriented and you will have no trouble making ISK."

Did you mean "PVE"?


Confirming that just PVP leaves you broke and penniless. What?

Dodixie > Hek