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[Question] Clarification on Storyline Missions
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Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-06-29 15:01:45 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Iri'yana wrote:
I'm a bit at a loss aobut the whole problem, checking on it on the agent finder. Two Seb. Tribe sqotryline agents, one in backwater high-sec system Hakeri, the other in low-sec Eugrana. One Six Kin agent in Vullat. And there is no system in New Eden that fits the 1&4 distance theme of the inital posting.

So I assume an error in the inital situation and stick to the general mechanic of closest storyline agent of same faction regardless of regions, system sec. Etc. Only randomness I so far encountered is when two agents are the same number of jumps away.

Is one of the inital posting agents maybe an agent for an epic arc or the old distibution cycle missions?


My guess is the OP is running missions in Aldik, which is one jump from Eurgrana. Since Eurgrana is low sec, the OP probably has the autopilot set to avoid low sec, and the storyline mission uses that to avoid the low sec storyline agent.



You're correct, I am running missions from Aldik and did have Autopilot set to avoid LowSec (Had no idea that had a bearing on where Storylines come from herpaderp *facepalm*), have just removed that and will see when my next Storyline comes up if it gives me a mission there. Thanks for pointing that out Rengerel :)
Kithran
#22 - 2013-06-29 15:06:02 UTC
Reiko Hakui wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Iri'yana wrote:
I'm a bit at a loss aobut the whole problem, checking on it on the agent finder. Two Seb. Tribe sqotryline agents, one in backwater high-sec system Hakeri, the other in low-sec Eugrana. One Six Kin agent in Vullat. And there is no system in New Eden that fits the 1&4 distance theme of the inital posting.

So I assume an error in the inital situation and stick to the general mechanic of closest storyline agent of same faction regardless of regions, system sec. Etc. Only randomness I so far encountered is when two agents are the same number of jumps away.

Is one of the inital posting agents maybe an agent for an epic arc or the old distibution cycle missions?


My guess is the OP is running missions in Aldik, which is one jump from Eurgrana. Since Eurgrana is low sec, the OP probably has the autopilot set to avoid low sec, and the storyline mission uses that to avoid the low sec storyline agent.



You're correct, I am running missions from Aldik and did have Autopilot set to avoid LowSec (Had no idea that had a bearing on where Storylines come from herpaderp *facepalm*), have just removed that and will see when my next Storyline comes up if it gives me a mission there. Thanks for pointing that out Rengerel :)


Nope - if you run missions in high sec you get given a storyline by an agent in high sec and vice versa
Kithran
#23 - 2013-06-29 15:16:46 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Nice to see people contradict themselves in an effort to prove me wrong.

I especially like how everyone keeps saying you get the storyline offer from the nearest storyline agent in the Faction, regardless of Region location.

Yet they still fail to explain why the OP is getting sent to storyline agent 4 jumps away instead of the storyline agent 1 jump away.

If they do try to explain it, they say it's random.


OK so which is it? Nearest Storyline Agent of the Faction or just RNG.


Nope - read what I posted - it is nearest _that is free_ - if the op for example had an expired offer from the agent 1 jump away that agent would not offer a new one.

I've just been blitzing couriers from the Eifyr & Co agent in Elgoi (and by blitzing I mean I'd built up about 8 storylines.

Every one of those story line offers came from agents further away.

I was offered a story line from the Six Kin agent in Vullat before I was offered one by the Republic University agent in Nakugard which proves it is the closest agent irrespective of region.

Incidently none of these offers were from agents in low sec even though there were low sec agents closer proving my statement regarding storylines coming from the same sec status as the 16th mission
Kithran
#24 - 2013-06-29 15:22:56 UTC
Reiko Hakui wrote:
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Iri'yana wrote:
I'm a bit at a loss aobut the whole problem, checking on it on the agent finder. Two Seb. Tribe sqotryline agents, one in backwater high-sec system Hakeri, the other in low-sec Eugrana. One Six Kin agent in Vullat. And there is no system in New Eden that fits the 1&4 distance theme of the inital posting.

So I assume an error in the inital situation and stick to the general mechanic of closest storyline agent of same faction regardless of regions, system sec. Etc. Only randomness I so far encountered is when two agents are the same number of jumps away.

Is one of the inital posting agents maybe an agent for an epic arc or the old distibution cycle missions?


My guess is the OP is running missions in Aldik, which is one jump from Eurgrana. Since Eurgrana is low sec, the OP probably has the autopilot set to avoid low sec, and the storyline mission uses that to avoid the low sec storyline agent.



You're correct, I am running missions from Aldik and did have Autopilot set to avoid LowSec (Had no idea that had a bearing on where Storylines come from herpaderp *facepalm*), have just removed that and will see when my next Storyline comes up if it gives me a mission there. Thanks for pointing that out Rengerel :)


The problem is nothing to do with low sec - I've just been looking at the map. You've been assuming because you were running missions for Sebistor tribe you will get a storyline mission from a Sebistor tribe agent.

You actually get a storyline from the closest Minmatar storyline agent in the same type of space (i.e. high or low sec) as the agent who gave you the 16th mission who is not already offering you a mission (including one that has expired.

Eurgrana is irrelevant as it is low sec.
Vullat is 6 jumps away.
Hakeri is a lot more than 6 jumps away

If you leave the Six Kin offer untouched I expect your next storyline will be offered by the Core Complexion agent in Arlek - 7 jumps away.
Iri'yana
Corvus Technologies
#25 - 2013-06-29 16:20:17 UTC
Not getting referred to low-sec if you do missions in high-sec is new to me. But then I always took care that the nearest storyline agent for mission no.16 was in high-sec. Apparently I took precautions to avoid something impossible.
Kithran
#26 - 2013-06-29 17:08:40 UTC
Iri'yana wrote:
Not getting referred to low-sec if you do missions in high-sec is new to me. But then I always took care that the nearest storyline agent for mission no.16 was in high-sec. Apparently I took precautions to avoid something impossible.


And note its just the agent offering who will be in high sec if you mission in high sec - if he's close to low you could still get a combat or distribution storyline to low sec.
CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#27 - 2013-06-30 03:50:36 UTC
I do not think is about regions or sec status, I think storyline missions will not come from the same corp you got the storyline trigger mission.
Iri'yana
Corvus Technologies
#28 - 2013-06-30 06:25:46 UTC
CMD Ishikawa wrote:
I do not think is about regions or sec status, I think storyline missions will not come from the same corp you got the storyline trigger mission.


That is most definitely wrong. The corporation of agent no.16 has absolutely nothing to do with the corporation of the storyline agent you get refered to. Only the faction and distance matter (and seemingly sec. Status).

Proof? Do missions e.g. for the Amarr Navy lvl4 agent in Oridion. The only storyline agent you'll ever get (assuming at you do the storyline right away) is the Amarr Navy storyline agent in the same system.
CMD Ishikawa
New Eden Public Security Section 9
#29 - 2013-06-30 12:54:23 UTC
Iri'yana wrote:
CMD Ishikawa wrote:
I do not think is about regions or sec status, I think storyline missions will not come from the same corp you got the storyline trigger mission.


That is most definitely wrong. The corporation of agent no.16 has absolutely nothing to do with the corporation of the storyline agent you get refered to. Only the faction and distance matter (and seemingly sec. Status).

Proof? Do missions e.g. for the Amarr Navy lvl4 agent in Oridion. The only storyline agent you'll ever get (assuming at you do the storyline right away) is the Amarr Navy storyline agent in the same system.


May be that is the case if there are no other storyline agent close enough, we do not know for certain, it could be a mechanic that combine all our ideas.
Texty
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-06-30 15:52:20 UTC
I've always thought that storylines are given by the agent who is physically closest to your toon when the mission is offered. So the agent may differ in accordance with your toon's location at the time of offer. Have never really checked so I may be totally wrong though :)
Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2013-06-30 22:31:18 UTC
I think I have finally figured out how it is worked. From my understanding it will give you a storyline with an Agent who is in the closest system to you (In the same Faction), but it won't give you missions in low sec if your last mission was from a high sec agent and vice versa. Really clears things up and makes it easier to ensure I get those specific corp missions I want (Even if it does mean having to run a mission in lowsec its worth it).
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-07-01 02:54:29 UTC
So, did you leave the Six Kin Storyline Agent offer open in your journal and then got another storyline offer from Storyline Agent?

Or did you do 15 missions, travel to another Sebiestor Tribe agent located in same system as Storyline Agent and then completed the 16th mission?

Also was the Storyline Agent in another Region?



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-07-01 11:41:46 UTC
I left the Six Kin Storyline Agent offer open and got one from a Agent in Arlek (still not the corp I wanted), so I left that open too and proceeded to do another 15 missions, I then jumped to Eurgrana (Metropolis, same region) and proceeded to complete the 16th mission there (there is a Storyline Agent for Seb Tribe in there), it gave me a mission from that agent and I have then continued to do the same (15 missions in Aldik, 1 in Eurgrana) and it consistently gives me missions from the same Seb Tribe agent.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2013-07-02 22:04:53 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Ahhh, great.

Sooo, the storyline mechanic just had Agents in the same region offer you missions and as each offer was left open, the agents got further and further away from your location.

Completing the 16th agent located in a system with a corp storyline agent induced that agent to offer the storyline mission.

And all this time the Seb Storyline agent 1 jump over in another region would never offer you a mission.



DMC

Cool


EDIT :

Thank you very much, it seems you've confirmed what I had originally posted.

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Reiko Hakui
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2013-07-02 22:23:23 UTC
Indeed, just that DMC, slightly annoying but at least now I've figured it out we can put this to rest, and finally got to the standings I wanted, so no more missions for me! YAYYYY!
Kithran
#36 - 2013-07-09 19:12:45 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Ahhh, great.

Sooo, the storyline mechanic just had Agents in the same region offer you missions and as each offer was left open, the agents got further and further away from your location.

Completing the 16th agent located in a system with a corp storyline agent induced that agent to offer the storyline mission.

And all this time the Seb Storyline agent 1 jump over in another region would never offer you a mission.



DMC

Cool


EDIT :

Thank you very much, it seems you've confirmed what I had originally posted.


No the reason the agent 1 jump over _in the same region_ was ignored was that it was in lowsec. The reason they were offered a mission from an agent 6 jumps away _in a different region_ was that it was the closest in highsec
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-07-09 21:20:42 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Kithran wrote:

No the reason the agent 1 jump over _in the same region_ was ignored was that it was in lowsec. The reason they were offered a mission from an agent 6 jumps away _in a different region_ was that it was the closest in highsec


I thought this issue was already settled?

Anyway, you've got it backwards.

The Seb Storyline agent 1 jump over was in a different region. The other Storyline agents 6 jumps and further away were all in the same Region.

As far as I'm concerned, the OP has already confirmed and verified the answer to his initial question.





DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Khanid Voltar
#38 - 2013-07-10 18:40:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanid Voltar
You've got it wrong DMC, re-read the thread the right answer is definitely in here.

I can categorically state 100% that the storyline agent does not have to be in the same region. This is not debatable or unknown - it is scientific fact. I know this because I tend to build up 9 or 10 7 SL missions a week before doing them all at once. My mission hub is in metropolis, but I get given SL's from an agent in the same system in Metro, then Heim, and MH as well the more SL missions I stack up.

The SL agent that the OP said was 1 jump away was in low sec in the same region (NOT IN A DIFFERENT REGION). Bearing in mind your faction standing plan that is so often suggested to people it is definitely worth making sure you are aware of the correct answer so that when you help others you give them the correct answer.

EDIT @ the OP thanks for posting the original question, yours (and subsequent posters) answers have massively cleared this whole subject up for me. The only thing I do not understand is how to leave an expired SL mission in my journal - when mine expire they just disappear. Not sure if I am looking in the wrong place, or potentially have checked a box somewhere saying 'remove mission offer immediately upon expiration'
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2013-07-11 07:05:53 UTC
Roll

Whatever floats your boat. You can continue saying I'm wrong til you're blue in the face and it still won't matter. I still stand by my first reply in this thread.

FYI = In regards to the Faction Standing Repair Plan. I always tell players to work the Event Agents listed in 'The Plan' instead of grinding 16 missions for 1 storyline, unless it's absolutely needed or required.

For the record, the OP continued to get offers from storyline agents within the same region, albeit none of them from low security.

I'm done with this thread. Good luck to you all.



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Khanid Voltar
#40 - 2013-07-11 07:29:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanid Voltar
Ah well, you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink.
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