Market Discussions

Which isn't my only source of income... regardless, things like that in high sec are valuable - which is why I don't want to just hand it to a high sec corp. If major zero sec corps were really into accepting noobs, I probably wouldn't be very worried about the perimeter system as the benefits would far outweigh losing that system which is probably not anything people in zero sec are worried about having access to. Those perimeter deposits in high sec are always picked clean and it's nice to be able to know that, at least if someone ganks you, they're still gonna get jumped by Concord.

I understand peoples' arguments that it's "not of value" to high level corps, obviously it's not. But there are still people out here in high sec who bother to make that 100,000 EMP bullets that only sell for 25 ISK each and take a day to manufacture, so it's not like competetors are non-existent. One has to start somewhere.

You dont need an API to find out where you are with your secret mining either.

Any corp director can check your location without need for an API through the corp interface, they can even see what you are flying. If you are that worried about people knowing anything about you, then joining a corp is not where you want to be.

Corp directors can also look in your hangars, again, without an API needed.

They just wanna know if you have any alts, if you recently bought the character, if you've got mysterious big donations in and the like. It's standard background check. You're overthinking it. (eve tycoon, don't even use my own apis)

Most of the people in my corp knows where my blueprints are. my corps tiny blueprint collection is mainly copies from my personal collection or our industrialists / traders will buy / make on their own and import the products for their own use so ya like I said the recruiters don't care because honestly we keep corp assets to a minimum to prevent thefts and other issues.

As I understand it, an API pull on your wallet can't go back much further than a month or so. There's also a total number of lines (transactions?) per pull. So whichever threshold you hit first would be the extent of the pull. That doesn't include contract information though, which is complete and permanent. Everyone can just go put up regional mineral buy orders and obliterate their wallet history. Or wait a bit.

There are other ways to accomplish the same sort of sanitization of ISK as well. For example, if you have Account A that has your really, super true Main on it with billions and billions of ISK, and you want to get ISK to Account B which has your super spai on it, all you need to do is buy a PLEX on Account A, create a temp alt on Account B, transfer the PLEX to the temp alt, the temp alt reverse redeems it to your account, biomass temp alt, super spai redeems PLEX to his hangar and sells it. Super spai tells target corp that he got impatient, bought a GTC with real money and redeemed it for sale and gladly supplies the complete API. Simple. If you want to keep your money sources secret, you can.

But that brings me to corps that insist on keeping the API active. They're the ones you should worry about OP. Because if that corp is big enough and there is some smart programmer involved in the process, they can definitely do what you're suggesting by gathering data over an extended period of time. That kind of data aggregation can yield very powerful information. It may not tell you the Joe Blow has discovered a super secret market for elite drone AI chips (though it might), but it will tell you that you have 6000 people who use X amount of Y item on Z schedule at an average of Q per person. If the data set is large enough, you can begin to use statistical analysis to tease out valuable speculation information. If that corp happens to have access to recruiting data and APIs from other corps, that data set can get pretty big. Plug that into actual market data that is publicly available and it just gets better and better.

Does anyone do this? I have no idea. But it's definitely possible. Given the absurd levels of OCD in the EVE player population, I have to believe that someone, somewhere has at least tried it.

I don't have to send you anything. And it's not paranoia that's stopping me. Nor do I imagine that I've got some huge secrets that no one has ever thought of. It's that I've nothing to gain from doing so and I can't be bothered.

It's really very simple, if you want to a join a group of people then you're going to have to work on trust, both ways. The corp is going to be concerned that you're a spy or whatever, so they ask for API. You can either trust them or not. Up to you.

And if in your talks with them you find out you don't like them or trust them, then you know what? Move on! Maybe it's not some grand conspiracy against you, but just a difference of opinion?

I've found your scumsucker.

She is at Parses VI - Moon 11 - Royal Khanid Navy Assembly Plant station in the Parses system, Fekhoya constellation of Khanid region.

With regards,

NSA

Or Locator Agents.

They can be used to hunt specific people down or to see where someone is that may be trying to hunt you down, or in this case to try to push an already paranoid person over the edge.

It is a difference of opinion, the abuse of API information by corporations to exploit other players poses serious threats to market fairness. I've already stated that I'm willing to decline a corp that wants my financial API. None of their business. If they're too stupid to know that accounts created for the purposes of spying aren't going to be contrarian about releasing personal trade info, then they deserve the kinds of spies they will get.

How's that conversation going to go?

"Hi, I'm a spy for the other mining corp in high sec, my CEO ordered me to infiltrate your corporation, but first I'm going to refuse to give you personal info on myself and tell you you're a ******* ******* for demanding it."

That's how they all get their foot in th door, I'm sure.

It's simple. We're all in on it.

Wait, blast it! I may have just blown our operation's cover.