EVE General Discussion

I quickly suggesteded to put an animated character selection screen instead, and others followed, elaborated and had the same idea independently.

To understand why nobody CCP figured that a replacement for the login screen was necesary with Odyssey, you can refer to the sinchronization issues i hinted above.

Scrum development is fast, but requires a good management structure and by accounts CCP management is sketchy at best. All the way from 2007 to 2013, former employees complain that at CCP talking to your buddy is the only safest way to drive information vertically -if you speak Icelandic, that is. So even if many *someones* knew that the animation guys had messed up, that information never reached the appropiate decission-person in time. Once the feature was deployed for feedback, the only possible feedback was how the players loved it. And they roared and cheered at Fanfest so it was a success, wasn't it?

Until even persons who don't suffer motion sickness, find it troublesome to watch the animation more than six or seven times in a row for causes that have been known since the 40s in the past century...

Hey Ranger. I think you're probably right about this. And, honestly, if CCP can just make the whole thing gentle on the eyes/ears I personally will be pretty cool with it all. I'm actually enjoying the end part of the tunnel where we come out. It's kinda' neat. Also, the fact that the camera now moves toward the gate before going to the side is helpful. I can at least keep oriented. The old version (if I remember right) just swung sideways and was disorienting. Oh and I want to say that the space-distortion effect on the gates is very cool.

So here are a few things I'd personally still like to see polished or have heard mentioned by others:

• the audio effects are too loud and drown out battlecoms;
• people who use tactical overview on gates do not like the camera zooming in at every gate. If they are focused on pvp i can understand why;
• some of the Minmatar gates involve a long swing of about 270'. This is to orient in the 'correct' direction. But actually a short swing of 60' (or whatever) would be much better and easier to stomach. Realism be damned;
• many of the Gallente gates have us jumping through a solid wall
• the tunnel effect is still a bit too flashy. Keep in mind we often see it ten times in short succession;
• the tunnel exit effect is a touch too abrupt. I mean it should be abrupt. but hey.... take it easy!

That's my laundry list so far. I'll take the 'off' toggle if there is one. But if not, that's what I'd like to see fixed.

P.S. Oh, and the fact that we no longer have that iconic login screen is a crime against EVE. It was such an amazing visceral experience.

+1 and LOL'ed.

Add the "Vintage login screen collection: this item will randomly play one of the old login screens on top of the Launcher. Each package includes 16 runs and yes, we're fully aware that there were 18 animated login screens. HTFU and welcome to MT-land."

Still in the garage stage of development. Gamers making games. Terrific, but they don't know how to manage the game itself at the higher level.

This is why it's important that CCP hires such management with the experience that only comes from the top 2 game companies -- and outside CCP's culture. CCP's shop is too closed and tunnel vision thrives in that environment. Tunnel vision is a game killer, as devs lose sight of what is really important...the players and their needs. Devs have their visions for a game, but it's a working relationship with who plays the game.

There's a lot of lessons in how Blizzard became Blizzard. Two guys who met in college with similar interests who wanted to make games. They literally started their company on extended credit cards, and lucked up in connecting with others (and having a mentor company to teach them the ropes about marketing and more).

But they made it clear that they won't release a game until it's good enough. They would throw 4 years of development down the drain and restart from scratch again to make it right (what is happening with Titan now). They did that even on a shoestring budget (long before having over a hundred million rolling each month), and earned the reputation of Soon™.

Can reinvent the wheel, or can learn the lessons that's free to learn from...and avoid the pitfalls and wasting time and money.

Glad you reposted the dev's comment. So CCP does want a form of CRZ and phasing in EvE. That's progress, as it offers a means to offload the load without the walls of hard instancing. As EvE needs this to not have hard limits on how many players can be in a zone. You don't see that in WoW, and if anything causes a bottleneck, they'll throw resources into it to fix the problem in days (like the Oondasta rush in 5.3, that caused multiple server boots for days, because the servers got overloaded). A standard web server can handle 1500 connections max (and not ideal for gaming), so folks can see the headache and how many blades are needed per zone conventionally. Have to offload the traffic, and without the hard instancing walls in how it's traditionally done. A form of CRZ and/or phasing can shift the load to little used nodes (servers), and spread the overall resource spikes evenly. Gamers will see this in practice in 5.4, when WoW virtually merges 10+ realms together as one world, with CRZ and phasing in place. Next step after battlegroups are virtually merged, is all battlegroups are merged...and it's EvE in WoW.

If you have to change the windows to move them, you won't see the effects when changing windows. I multibox as well, and unless you have 2+ monitors and keeping an eye on all of them, you can't tell. This animation doesn't last very long...and on a single client, can still face getting across the tunnel and seeing but a blue screen in itself (especially in Jita).

And I have a $2000+ i7 system and 100mb internet.

It doesn't take much insightt to be able to read the information the Devs have already provided... although you do learn a bit when in constant contact with a piece of software over a decade.

The EVE launcher currently has a link in the lower left corner for an Odyssey player feedback survey. I suggest that everyone dissatisfied with the jumpgate animation (or any other new feature) take the time to fill it out.

The survey is actually very thourough in covering all aspects of the expansion, and it is very easy to indicate which details you like and dislike.

So you believe in a ccp develop when he/she says, it is not an option since it is no longer possible to change! ... and this is the very same ccp developers who also told that it was not possible to make change to captain quarter Secret - for your eyes only! Look at post 6 .... Must say you are a bit naive Ranger!

Yes you should learn a little over 10 years Ranger - which I believe I have ... on / off over the past 10 years.