EVE New Citizens Q&A

Train some damage ! Drones, missils or guns, but DAMAAGEEEEEE

For the love of...

okay... first off... kudos to you for getting many of the Engineering skills to level 5. You didn't HAVE to do that... but what has been done is done.

For future reference... getting a skill to level 4 gives you about 80% effectiveness in about 17% of the time (compared to getting it to level 5). So once you have something at level 4, you can quickly move on to something else (and come back later when you want to "polish" a specialty)... unless you NEED that skill to level 5 to access something else.


Your weapon skills are near non-existent. Work on Weapon Upgrades (and Advanced Weapon upgrades) to make fitting weapons easier, then start training up a mix of support and direct weapon skills (your choice of missiles or gunnery).

You also have no ship skills. Or Navigation skills. Drone skills would also be nice if you intend on getting into ships bigger than cruisers.


Just out of curiosity... what are you doing besides worrying about what to train next?

edit: better question... what do you want to do?

I will recommend armor training to you also if you want to go for a variety of ships below BS. Why? because certain classes of ships are better armor tanked than shield (and visa versa).

Since you want to skill more laterally instead of BS and higher (as I have done also) you will find that the 4 races of ships within each advanced ship class will have different bonuses, and you will find that some of the ships will outclass the others. There is a mix of these though.

But back to what you want to do, what do you want to do first? You are skilling high over a years time, but what happens when you get into these ships? If you dont' have experience flying each of them your going to crash and burn in many of the scenarios because it isn't about just pushing buttons. You need to know your ships and their abilities. I recommend that you get those gunnery/navi/ship skills and start flying now. Plus you may find that it's just what you need to decompress from life.

I'm not actually new. I've flown EWAR, Logistics, tackling, etc, etc. I've just never mastered any of them...I always had III/IV in the skills at most, never had maxed skills or gone past cruisers.

So, yeah, I do have experience with each of them, I have been in wars for alliances in the past (literally...like 2006...a lot has changed though, tbh)...I know about most of the stuff in the game (though sleepers and WH's are something I've never done). It's not that I'm new, perse, it's just that I've never actually gone FAR with the skills.


And Shah, I know it does. That's my main problem. I've known about EVE since it's conception, I've played off and on (as a teenager) but I never became more than a jack of all trades. I never pushed my skills to V. (Most of those are V so that when I do gunnery/ship skills I can take them all to IV and not have to worry about.."Oh, if I had 2.7% more cap I'd be able to remain stable at 30.7% cap".)

I had to worry about crap like that in the past and I just didn't want it to happen...

That's one of the reasons I haven't pushed spaceship command either. Each race has specific ships that fill different roles in different ways and I haven't been able to decide.

There are things I do not like and do like about most of the ships. One thing I always dislike about armor tankers is that I feel "claustrophobic" in the sense that fitting everything into a low slot (a lot of helpful items go here :() for tanking feels like an extreme balancing act.

Flipping the coin, I like shield tanking, but not every ship is built for that.

Then you have the dps-based ships which fight in close range, or the alphas that are the artillery. You have light drones to deal with those pesky frigates that you can't quite nail, or, sentries if you want to sit far away, then recollect and jump a distance to repeat it..

Then you have damage types dealt by various spaceships, based on ammo type or missile type, etc. So every ship, has it's uses. My home is in the heart of Heimatar where you fight Caldari pilots and Angel pirates. So I naturally want to gravitate/lean towards something that deals explosive and/or thermal/kinetic.

Or hell, even thermal. I have a buddy I can play with, but I've never tried missions using a logi ship + a ship suited for battles. (All of my logi experience came from fleets)....so I assume if we can both build tanky enough then it'd be better just to build to clear quicker. (This is operating under the thoughts for L4's (I've never done L5's, so I can't begin to grasp how those work)


I like being able to fill any role when the time comes...I think that's my problem. That's how I deal with other games I play and I've known for years that it won't work here. I just can't work to guide myself in that one direction. I thought some of you may have stories, or better yet, a mass of experience when it comes to certain activities. That way you could help push me towards one specific close-term goal so that I may find myself in EVE.

Logi ships are what I'm closest to being able to do immediately. My friend is currently doing L2's with a rupture...and it'll probably be a while before he's even contemplating level 3's. So I could obviously work towards the goal of doing L3's, then 4's, etc.

Ultimately I know the game is based around fun..

I was in the same place you are about 6 mo ago. I decided to fully cross train sub bs hulls. Now I fly anything well, t2 fit all the things and you know what? It was a waste of time. I fly 2 ships regularly. They are the ones Ihave the most fun in. If iI had focused all those sp into those 2 ships I would have all the relevant skills at 5 right now and would feel like a bad ass.

I'm sure that it will come in handy some day when I get bored and want to fly something new but I could just as easily train those skills then.

Since you are cross training just do the figs. Its easy and fast and they all have analogous ships in larger hulls. Experiment with the small ships and find out which ones you like the looks and feel of then dig in to the larger versions.

There were some interesting reads in that topic. Thanks.



I'm still int/mem. My eveboard summary is always up to date.

You have a point about training them to III, or even IV. I'm gonna think about what kind of ships I want to fly...


Ultimately it boils down to the fact that I really don't have preferences.. I've flown in ships from each faction and they all seemed to have their pros and cons.

Let's try this....





Would you all mind sharing, in your opinion (obviously, :p), what your absolute favorite ship is, why it is your favorite ship AND what you like to do with said ship?

I didn't see too much about specific ships in that topic, so I figure I'll ask. I figure some of you are more into EWAR, or Logis, maybe even AF's, Caps, what-have you.

Thanks, you lot have always been great.

Browse the market, find a ship you think looks cool and research what it does. if it's something you want to fly then focus your training in that general direction.

While this is very true...you can still have a favorite / preferred ship to fly :)

And yes, I'm aware that all kinds of ships are used in PvP, since I've experienced it...but...you can still have that one ship that you would love to fly more often than others.


Thanks!

This is true...and...if I want a healthy balance of Perc/Will and Int/Mem skills, dividing points between Perc/Int would be best, yes?

So, 24 int/24 perc/17 mem/17 cha/17 willpower right?

Just asking because my shields will be completely done (by the looks of it, sub-cap wise, and not counting defensive subsystems) once my shield emissions skill is done..Really need some combat skills :(..

Well...yeah...I'd like to...but my combat skills will absolutely suck if I stick with int/mem...