Missions & Complexes

Tank goes in your high slots. Stop being bad and fit a cap booster.

I didn't run a prop mod. Did some reading and it looks like cap stable is a thing of the past for Amarr BSes. I might look into a Geddon drone boat for PVE now.

Actually it has always been like that. If you're cap stable in Amarr BS you're doing it wrong.

2,5 mins of cap is fine for Apoc/NApoc. Remember that range is your main tank in Apoc/NApoc. Most NPCs don't even hit you from ranges you can hit/kill them. You hardly use your repairer in missions. Always disable your prop mod when not moving.

- Learn triggers
- Use cap booster

pls no

If you fit frigate size guns to match the frigate 1MN afterburner I bet this would be awesome at level 1 missions!

I actually smiled for 2 reasons

- There's someone out there that does worst fits than me.
- EVE Online still attracts new players, not everyone knows the game 100%

This is what I fly for L4 in Amarr.
Not optimal but does its job in fairly smooth fashion.

[Apocalypse Navy Issue, Sansha/BR L4]
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Centus C-Type Large Armor Repairer
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Capacitor Power Relay II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
100MN Afterburner II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Standard L

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Warrior II x5

Stats are based on all level 5 except for Armor Resistance Phasing and without any implants.

DPS:
776 (2677) with Scorch, 62+10km, last 3m51s
675 (2239) with IN Standard, 41+10km, cap stable at 37%
832 (2921) with IN Xray, 31+10km, last 6m58s
933 (3359) with IN Multifreq, 21+10km, last 3m51s

cap stats above assumes AB is always on, which really shouldn't be the case. So, it's basically cap stable.

Tank:
83,621 EHP
80.9/75.1/36.3/32.0 initial resist (without RAH balancing out), 524 ehp/s
84.3/79.6 EM/Therm resist with 30/30 EM/Therm RAH distribution, ~650 ehp/s if I remember it correctly

Speed:
408 m/s

900 mil price tag when I fit this, which is like a month ago.
Not sure now...should be around 1 bil isk.

Yeah lame EWar is a big part of why I run Minmatar missions... painters are basically harmless unless you're doing it in a cruiser (other than t3).

Instead of trying to make guns and armor repping both cap stable, try using cap injected setups. Check the following setup, its a bit skill intensive but has better damage projection.

[Apocalypse, lv4 mission runner]
Large Armor Repairer II
True Sansha Armor EM Hardener
True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener
True Sansha Armor EM Hardener
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L

Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5


Its not super expensive, the faction armor hardeners are cheap and so is the T2 discharge rigs.
True Sansha Armor EM Hardener < 7 mil
True Sansha Armor Thermic Hardener around 21 to 22 mil
Large Energy Discharge Elutriation II around 19 mill (for comparison Large Capacitor Control Circuit I is around 14 mill)

Note : The Tech2 discharge rigs offer better bang than the standard CCC rig. Your main cap usage is guns. This setup is cap stable with guns + tracking comps + armor hardeners running. fill your cargohold with as many 800 cap charges as your ammo takes almost no space. Switch the tracking script from Optimal Range to Tracking Speed as needed. Pulse armor repper and cap injector when needed.

gun dps with Scorch is 584 at 80k and with Navy Multi its 733 at 27k (with optimal range scripts)
additional drone dps is 158 for medium drones and 99 for smalls.
Theoretical max dps is 976 (818 + 158) at 21k or 743 (584 + 158) at 80k(actually 60k as thats the limit of drones control range caps)
You can even try using Conflag crystals to push the dps even further but it will result in poor tracking.

For simple dps chart
DPS:
743 (2532) with Scorch, 80+16km with 0.043 tracking (not an issue as things are far off)
647 (2118) with IN Standard, 54+16km with 0.058 tracking
769 (2648) with IN Xray, 40+16km with 0.058 tracking
891 (3177) with IN Multifreq, 27+16km with 0.058 tracking
976 (3545) with Conflag, 21+10km with 0.066 tracking (with tracking scripts)

Anyways this fit is a bit resilient to tracking disruption and has the flexibility to go for long range or better tracking as needed.

Total fit costs around 300 mill.

Im serious, how many times have i seen this gurd darn thread. tachs, all gank little tank shooting out at about 200km and using a mjd too get that distance and you beat every mission in the game except for the ones with a large amount of missile bastards.