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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#1 - 2011-11-09 02:28:01 UTC  |  Edited by: T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
With the upcoming expansion and all the new stuff CCP is planning on bringing out this winter it looks like Eve is going to be closer to everything I always wanted it to be than ever before. The last time I was this excited was back when I first installed the client in 2005 and joined my first corp.

Keep it up CCP! And thankyou for not abusing my renewed faith in you Hilmar, I'm glad I resubbed and I hope this trend continues.

edit. PS While you're making changes and in the mood, can you allow small boobs on the character creator cheers

-T'amber

www.shipsofeve.com
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-11-09 02:35:52 UTC
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:
can you allow small boobs on the character creator

I misread that as 'smell boobs'.
And my brain automatically made that into the sentence 'can you allow us to smell boobs'

And, yes, I love this new direction, and more is sure to come! Big smile
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#3 - 2011-11-09 03:38:59 UTC
DarkAegix wrote:
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:
can you allow small boobs on the character creator

I misread that as 'smell boobs'.
And my brain automatically made that into the sentence 'can you allow us to smell boobs'

And, yes, I love this new direction, and more is sure to come! Big smile

I am now disturbed

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Ron Bacardi
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-11-09 03:49:53 UTC
I wonder where this game would be now if it weren't for Walking in Hotel Rooms and :18months:
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#5 - 2011-11-09 04:29:15 UTC
Ron Bacardi wrote:
I wonder where this game would be now if it weren't for Walking in Hotel Rooms and :18months:

Almost certainly possibly likely involving slightly prettier pewpew and a bit more balance.
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#6 - 2011-11-09 04:51:20 UTC
Ron Bacardi wrote:
I wonder where this game would be now if it weren't for Walking in Hotel Rooms and :18months:


Interesting question, would all of these things we've always wanted have been done if not for the shinanegans over the last year or so? I do not think so, or atleast not all in one go.



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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#7 - 2011-11-09 05:38:38 UTC
I seriously honestly think that carbonization project of eve is what caused alot of features to be delayed for so long, but looks like the process is nearly done.

I mean the time line is almost right if you think of it, they annouced carbonization long ago which basically meant that they where going to have to rebuild eve from foundation up. There has been evidence of this being an ongoing process the entire time we been 'featurelessed' but now with so much of it done it seems they can spring board in alot of ways quicker.

I have a hard enough time imagining trying to get the core teams aside from the art /tech art/qa ones to be able to work on station interior designs and stuff that doesnt have to do with spreadsheets, I mean its what they hired majority of the WiS guys for which last I checked WiS (not WoD) guys are still there making assests until their feature is revisited.

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pussnheels
Viziam
#8 - 2011-11-09 08:35:05 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
I seriously honestly think that carbonization project of eve is what caused alot of features to be delayed for so long, but looks like the process is nearly done.

I mean the time line is almost right if you think of it, they annouced carbonization long ago which basically meant that they where going to have to rebuild eve from foundation up. There has been evidence of this being an ongoing process the entire time we been 'featurelessed' but now with so much of it done it seems they can spring board in alot of ways quicker.

I have a hard enough time imagining trying to get the core teams aside from the art /tech art/qa ones to be able to work on station interior designs and stuff that doesnt have to do with spreadsheets, I mean its what they hired majority of the WiS guys for which last I checked WiS (not WoD) guys are still there making assests until their feature is revisited.

yes
but i m a bit worried
CCP is trying to give us almost everything the community been asking for, and even more , trying to make one super expansion that will suroass most/all others ,
So what about the expansions after this winter expansion , I just know people will be demanding even more and be very dissapointed when CCP can't keep up with giving us newer and better things to do in space

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#9 - 2011-11-09 08:52:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Well when you only have one surgon (eve dev core) in the entire hospital(ccp) and you get a patient with an unexploded live grenade suck in the side of her face (features in space) you have ot make the call to either let her work on her now or operate on poor timmy's guts (old eve code). The unfourtunatilites is that poor timmys heart cannot wait much more, hes a growing boy and he needs the new guts (carbonization) so at least he becomes a productive person.

So the girl with the grenade in her mouth would have to be chewing while the extremly long and streanous operations to replace timmy's guts went on for 18 months.

To the dismay of some, few people thought the grenade exploded.

But alas the operations on timmy is complete and the surgeon certainly knows his way around the scaple now and expertly removes that grenade.

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Neo Agricola
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-11-09 08:55:18 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
I seriously honestly think that carbonization project of eve is what caused alot of features to be delayed for so long, but looks like the process is nearly done.

I mean the time line is almost right if you think of it, they annouced carbonization long ago which basically meant that they where going to have to rebuild eve from foundation up. There has been evidence of this being an ongoing process the entire time we been 'featurelessed' but now with so much of it done it seems they can spring board in alot of ways quicker.

I have a hard enough time imagining trying to get the core teams aside from the art /tech art/qa ones to be able to work on station interior designs and stuff that doesnt have to do with spreadsheets, I mean its what they hired majority of the WiS guys for which last I checked WiS (not WoD) guys are still there making assests until their feature is revisited.

yes
but i m a bit worried
CCP is trying to give us almost everything the community been asking for, and even more , trying to make one super expansion that will suroass most/all others ,
So what about the expansions after this winter expansion , I just know people will be demanding even more and be very dissapointed when CCP can't keep up with giving us newer and better things to do in space


[bullshit]
After that Expansion they will try to make Expansions and Updates bugfree.
[/bullshit] (SCNR)

Dont worry, there are so many things that are broken, they have enough stuff to do, to fill the next 2-3 Expansions without any problems.

- FW
- Low
- Drone Bug
- Overview Bug
- POS Administration
- Corp Administration
- T3 frigs
- Update for Miners
a.s.o...
:-)

Nevertheless:

THANK you CCP for:
- Listening to your customers (without giving them everything they want, because that would destroy the game)
- Giving feedback, even after 40 pages of the same questions (see POS Fuel Thread)
- Giving uns information of new features and put them on Sisi, even while the skin is not renderd, so we can Test them and provide valuable Feedback regarding ballancing "T"3 BCs (T = Tier)
- Listening to our feedback regarding Ballancing, so there is not 1 ship which everone wil fly and the other 3 Tier 3 BC will not be build (ok, that one has to come, because a.f.a.i.k. there are two useable and 2 crap)

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Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2011-11-09 08:57:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Gilbaron
Quote:
So what about the expansions after this winter expansion , I just know people will be demanding even more and be very dissapointed when CCP can't keep up with giving us newer and better things to do in space


we will have dust in summer 2012 which is gonna be the biggest step for mmos propably since MUD

and after reading on how dust is gonna work i just cant wait
ThisIsntMyMain
Doomheim
#12 - 2011-11-09 08:59:32 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
I seriously honestly think that carbonization project of eve is what caused alot of features to be delayed for so long,


No...

Carbon is a low level rewrite of a bunch of extremely outdated and old code. It desperately needed doing. The Incarna engine is not Carbon. It was an attempt at a 3D game engine that used Carbon as it's interface to the server.

Carbon = Good
Incarna = Failed
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#13 - 2011-11-09 09:17:21 UTC
Rewriting eve is acutally a much bigger project than incarna would have been outside of the technical artist realm of work.

Devs have quirped dev blogs on in the past of some really odd things that can break in eve because of toying with old codes just in the proper wrong ways. Now you have to take 6.5 years worth of old code, translate it into the new code and make it such a way that its works exactly the same way as the old client did. Considering the folks who originally wrote eve arent there anymore this could and should have been a massive undertaking and it was.

There was just some things Ive noticed where it seemed they said EFF rewriting this, we have to make a new replacment. Or even worse the why rewrite this lets get rid of it parts? (ship spinning comes to mind)

I mean seriously guys who sit around code monkey stuff up, crunch numbers all day and make spreadsheets and make sure the databases are behaved would contribute to a space barbie interface? I rather have my coders hard at work Unfubaring 6.5 years of work even if it takes them a year and a half to accomplish it.

What I am saying is both Incarna and Carbon happened at the same time, the timing for both was very BAD because Incarna got all the blame for what Carbonization ate majority of in resrouces.

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pussnheels
Viziam
#14 - 2011-11-09 09:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: pussnheels
Neo Agricola wrote:
pussnheels wrote:
Nova Fox wrote:
I seriously honestly think that carbonization project of eve is what caused alot of features to be delayed for so long, but looks like the process is nearly done.

I mean the time line is almost right if you think of it, they annouced carbonization long ago which basically meant that they where going to have to rebuild eve from foundation up. There has been evidence of this being an ongoing process the entire time we been 'featurelessed' but now with so much of it done it seems they can spring board in alot of ways quicker.

I have a hard enough time imagining trying to get the core teams aside from the art /tech art/qa ones to be able to work on station interior designs and stuff that doesnt have to do with spreadsheets, I mean its what they hired majority of the WiS guys for which last I checked WiS (not WoD) guys are still there making assests until their feature is revisited.

yes
but i m a bit worried
CCP is trying to give us almost everything the community been asking for, and even more , trying to make one super expansion that will suroass most/all others ,
So what about the expansions after this winter expansion , I just know people will be demanding even more and be very dissapointed when CCP can't keep up with giving us newer and better things to do in space


[bullshit]
After that Expansion they will try to make Expansions and Updates bugfree.
[/bullshit] (SCNR)

Dont worry, there are so many things that are broken, they have enough stuff to do, to fill the next 2-3 Expansions without any problems.

- FW
- Low
- Drone Bug
- Overview Bug
- POS Administration
- Corp Administration
- T3 frigs
- Update for Miners
a.s.o...
:-)

Nevertheless:

THANK you CCP for:
- Listening to your customers (without giving them everything they want, because that would destroy the game)
- Giving feedback, even after 40 pages of the same questions (see POS Fuel Thread)
- Giving uns information of new features and put them on Sisi, even while the skin is not renderd, so we can Test them and provide valuable Feedback regarding ballancing "T"3 BCs (T = Tier)
- Listening to our feedback regarding Ballancing, so there is not 1 ship which everone wil fly and the other 3 Tier 3 BC will not be build (ok, that one has to come, because a.f.a.i.k. there are two useable and 2 crap)


Aye i agree but soon people will demand new things to do , and all these things take time to devolop and 6 moths isn't really that long and we end up with a new feature badly implemented and untested because of deadlines

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#15 - 2011-11-09 09:24:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Nova Fox
Backlog is like 2 years long too.. there are alot of things to keep developers busy. But we are about to reach the question...

Where do we go from here?

Backlog is mostly fixes and revisions but those can be addressed usually individually.

Eventually palyers will start to get the hankering for new ways to play and kill thier fellow pod pilot or ruin his day.

Maybe if they highjack my idea on FnI that should be enough for 2-3 expansions.

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bornaa
GRiD.
#16 - 2011-11-09 10:33:42 UTC  |  Edited by: bornaa
i think they are giving us so much now because next expansion is DUST reserved.

and about all this "past 2 years DEVS where rewriting all EVEs code" (carbonisation) i know thats the case...
just look how much things they have broken when nothing new is introduced... that you do when you rewriting the code... that are programming errors... and look at tests on SiSi... we are testing something that has not changed anything... something is changed... but under the hood...
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