EVE General Discussion

My advice for a newbie looking to make isk is train astrometrics to like 4 and salvage to like 3 and then go to a system with a level 3/4 security agent and scan down all the missions done by people who follow the above guide and salvage everything.
It takes like less than a week to train and you don't need to grind standings or play for hours or nothing.

You're welcome.

It's risky and unpredictable but yes a good way also to quickly earn ISK. Thanks!
You will most likely pay with a bounty eventually or have your ship ganked but that is what you are willing to risk for speed.


Also, there should be plenty of level 4 mission runners in highsec so there will always be a steady supply of wrecks to salvage.

And no one leveling to get into a battleship (quick) is going to survive it.

To use a battleship you need all the necessary skills or waste about 300 million ISK each time your ship is blown up (why folks will consider you a troll too).

Skill training takes time, and there's no way to get around it.

Which is why so many stay at level 3s if doing security runs, until they get those skills (or run level 4 distribution missions).

So if you're going to have to wait, make some ISK. Their standings will be 6.67+ (if they trained the social skills) before they get to level 4s, and can have all the salvage ready to make whatever they need...ammo, modules, weapons and buying more skill books. Pure profit, zero loss and their skills be leveled well to then just blitz level 4s.

I make more ISK just mining in missions than the missions itself offers (you're not going to get escalated missions -- that drop officer loot -- every run anyway). Gotten the standings to refine with zero tax and can built with zero tax. Now can refine it perfectly. So bulk ore that I got now is worth a mint if I sold it. Or I can turn it around and build battleships by the 10s (I have a lot of ore).

You can keep your occasional officer drops, I can mission and mine and make more money, and if I need the officer drops I can go get them latter too. Even MORE ISK!

Challenge accepted. First you are not wasting 300 million, it is an investment and having assets is more valuable then ISK.
ISK is not wealth, it is simply a CLAIM on wealth. The goods you purchase with ISK are the real wealth. When I bought my Navy Scorpion I paid 280 million, guess how much it's worth today. If I had kept that 280 million my ISK would be worth less.

If you let your ISK sit around in your wallet the inflation monster will grind it away. Wealth = what you own, not how much isk you have.

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You know I'm not so sure about the TOP end paying better and skipping the lower ones. The lower, easier level 4 missions are also quicker then running Dread Pirate Scarlet, I can do about 4 to 5 low level missions and the LP is about the same when you add them up per minute. The other bonus of doing the easier level 4's is you get to 16 missions much faster then trying to grind the harder level 4's.

On average, Dread Pirate Scarlet, Angel Extravaganza etc can take up to 45 minutes (35/45) to complete and you earn 5000 LP roughly. If I complete 4 easier missions in under 8 minutes I can actually earn more LP, even though the bounties are less, but it opens up story line missions faster, which pay out even better rewards.

So, if I can do more story line missions in a single day I can actually make more.

That's trolling.

Honey, the assets I'm kept for years have only increased it's value. The assets I have are BPOs, and some well researched BPOs at that.

So go ahead and think that battleship is worth something. My ore can make them by the 10s.

All that I salvaged can make those modules selling for 40 million a piece (and how much did you get for your chance officer loot again? 120 or make 250 million at that?).

Making ISK is planning your future. And you can be but a mission runner that skims the top, but the mission runner who plays wisely will come out with billions of ISK.

If that's your goal, simply run a bunch of Distribution Missions.

Please, for God's sake, stop posting.

Hush child the adults are speaking.

You're not getting it, and it'll be too long to explain it to you, but this: skimming off the top mission running is what PvP types do, okay? Those who dedicate the time to manufacture and/or Research take the advantage of them for all it delivers. This includes everything it offers, be it ore and/or salvage.

Nothing goes to waste. We salvage. We refine + reprocess otherwise useless items. Then use them to build. You will buy what we build, and that how we make our ISK...by the billions...via mission running.

But to get there, takes a lot of time. A lot of skills (skills that you don't even mention that a mission runner has to skill into -- like Social/Connections/Negotiation/Security Connections, etc, etc.). Heck, you can get better advice at Battleclinic on PvE mission builds!

All we're stating is, there's more to missioning than skimming the top just for ISK and LP. If you don't want to invest time in other "careers" fine, but how about showing a solo player all that missioning offers and it's ISK potential? We don't have salvage ships for nothing, either.