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The solo player ISK making guide or "I wish someone told me this when I started playing" g

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Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#1 - 2013-07-05 22:26:35 UTC
This guide assumes that

1. You are new to Eve online.
2. You're going at it solo.
3. You only have an hour, maybe less a day to play.

There are MANY options in eve for making ISK, and some are more profitable then others. We are going to focus on

1. Steady and predictable income.
2. Low maintenance , high return per hour.

The first thing to realize about Eve is that it is driven by a military economy. You don't have happy bubble guns that spray sunshine on others, the majority of items on the market are pvp oriented or made for aggression. This is a huge help to choose a career path that will make you the most ISK.

This means you will work for "security" agents.

Overall the best thing any new solo player can do from DAY 1 is to start training up for level 4 missions. This means getting your skills ready for a battleship. Forget everything else. Since I have experience with Caldari ships, my recommendation is to cross train for Raven and Scorpion. Then upgrade to the Navy versions, but these two ships that I mentioned are your primary goal.

As they are focused on cruise missiles this means your main focus will be training shields and missiles.

Ok now you immediately pick a corporation after you finish the tutorials (and collect free gear) that will help you improve standings with that corp.
It really doesn't matter which corp you choose as long as the agent is a "security" agent. Do not use ANY of the other agent types. Stick with ONE NPC corporation and only run missions for that initial corporation to improve your standings fast.

I'm going to say that again because it is important:

>PICK ONE CORPORATION AND ALWAYS USE SECURITY AGENTS!!!!

1. Pick ONE NPC corp to run missions with.
2. Grind up to level 4's as fast as possible.
3. Use the rewards and bonuses from missions to buy gear, DO NOT SALVAGE!!!

You want to maximize your LP and mission running rate, so you can quickly get to level 4. By salvaging and looting you are delaying the process. Your primary focus is to get to level 4 missions, so run as many mission per hour as possible and ignore ALL other activities like looting and salvage unless you grab gear as you kill rats. DO NOT STICK AROUND LOOTING after completing a mission. As soon as that little green check box appears FLY BACK to station!!!!

4. Blitz missions if possible to get the LP bonuses as fast as you can.
5. Use the LP to get discounts on faction gear when you can afford to purchase. Faction gear will make you a more efficient killer, which means faster kills, which means more value of ISK/LP per hour.
6. Run all storyline missions which provide additional rewards and improve faction standing. (use eve survival "google it")

The reason Jita became a trade hub was originally due to multiple agents being in system, which meant you could run multiple missions quickly. Try to find a corporation which has multiple agents in system that will allow you to run max missions from same system.


Why missions are superior for solo players.

1. All ships that you destroy have a bounty reward that is collected as soon as you destroy one, even if the mission is not completed. This means you can tell exactly how much ISK you can make an hour just by blowing up ships.

2. Your security status and standings improve each mission you complete giving you a discount as you improve standings on gear you purchase. The better your standings are the less tax you pay for items. This is good!

3. Loyalty points, each time you complete a mission you receive loyalty points which allow you access to expensive gear at a discount. These can be traded for ISK or used to upgrade ships for a fraction of the cost then it would cost on market.

4. Every 16th mission you complete allows you access to storyline missions. These are important because they improve overall faction standing much faster then regular missions plus you can get plugin implants and other high rewards and grant you access to more security agents and more discounts on gear!

5. Each mission you complete has a reward PLUS bonus ISK amount on top of the bounties you collect, this bonus pretty much covers most of your ammunition costs and any leftover ISK is a bonus for rainy days.


bounties+mission reward + mission bonus reward + LP + storyline missions + discounted gear + less tax = a lot of ISK in your pocket!
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My recommendation for ship training progression (Caldari oriented again)

caracal (HM) / drake(HM) / scorpion(cruise) / raven(cruise) ignore everything else. Focus on missiles, forget all other weapons. Focus on shields. Get it trained and you will be running level 4 missions in about two months.

Train for HM and Cruise missiles from the very beginning, forget HAM and TORPS for now.

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Do not train for salvage, or other activites that will slow down your progress and cost you ISK. Invest in a clear path that is PVP oriented and you will have no trouble making ISK.

This plan is based on a two month skill plan. This means you will have to pay for two months of eve online out of pocket until you can start earning enough ISK to purchase a plex. You dont need all level 5 skills, just enough to get you into the ships and use the modules that are effective enough. You will be slow at first but each mission you complete will help improve your ISK earning potential.

If you stick to this plan you can expand to additional branches, but your trunk and primary means of earning ISK will be trained FIRST before trying all the other stuff.

Ask questions, offer suggestions how to improve this guide. Thanks for reading!

and remember NEVER MINE! it's not free. Zydrine exists in highsec from the loot you collect from rats.

-= Cyn =-

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#2 - 2013-07-05 22:27:21 UTC


--> EVE New Citizens Q&A

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.

Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#3 - 2013-07-05 22:29:08 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:



Thanks!

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.

Sub Tzero
Deutsche Luftschlosswerke AG
#4 - 2013-07-05 23:28:12 UTC
"Invest in a clear path that is PVP oriented and you will have no trouble making ISK."

Did you mean "PVE"?
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#5 - 2013-07-05 23:58:24 UTC
Don't play amarr.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Sex Slave Girl
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#6 - 2013-07-06 06:37:46 UTC
Play gallente with sentry drones. Saves you tons of ammo.
Maria212
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-07-06 07:09:38 UTC
Well i pretty much have to agree with the guide..

As a new pilot that doesnt know all that much about guns, tracking optimals and kiting, missiles are a great choice as your range and transversal to target has no influence on damage..
Also being a shield ship makes it easier to tank (pasive drake) all that dps thats hitting you than straight away going into armor rep ships.. They also require certain core skills as cap etc to be fully efficient..

I would also like to add that my first ship that i went straight for was a TENGU for mission running and i can say i was so satisfied with it that i still use one today..

+1
Q 5
999 HOLDINGS LLC
#8 - 2013-07-06 07:30:36 UTC
Sex Slave Girl wrote:
Play gallente with sentry drones. Saves you tons of ammo.


This is very much true, t1 versions of HM, cruise missiles cost you isk per shot say;

(Assuming price is around this)

Drake, 7 HM per launch = 525 per volley Sad

Raven, 6 CM per launch = 1110 per volley Sad

So, 21000 isk Per full 40 launches from Drake (grouping of course)

And 33300 isk per CM X 30 launches.

So before we go to deep, I've used CM up 2000 in some missions,

2000 X 1110 = 2,220,000 isk per 2000 units

2000 X 525 = 1,050,000 isk per 2000 units.

So yes if you want to maximize isk train for a drone boat or Amarr, but I have to disagree with OP regarding looting and salvaging, reason for this is you need to learn which rats serve the best luncheon and which rats to leave for the buzzards.

I can tell you now I quite often leave Guristas and drones NPC wrecks cause not even the salvage is really worth much.
Sarmatiko
#9 - 2013-07-06 07:40:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Sarmatiko
Quote:
caracal (HM) / drake(HM) / scorpion(cruise) / raven(cruise)

LOLWUT? OP trying to create new darwins in this game?

Also what others have already said: Dominix is currently king of mission running in terms of cost/effectiveness. 800 eft dps from Garde II on 85-99km optimal is not a joke.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-07-06 07:48:18 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
Quote:
caracal (HM) / drake(HM) / scorpion(cruise) / raven(cruise)

LOLWUT? OP trying to create new darwins in this game?

Also what others have already said: Dominix is currently king of mission running in terms of cost/effectiveness. 800 eft dps from Garde II on 85-99km optimal is not a joke.


She did say she was Caldari (does anyone read anything on this forum?).

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Steve Spooner
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-07-06 07:59:29 UTC
Or you can fit a 2-3 mill scanning/hacking frigate, venture to low/null, and make upwards of 60 mill a hour whilst risking 3 million isk versus a battleship.
Obunagawe
#12 - 2013-07-06 11:21:02 UTC
Now remove this from forum, make a corp, put this in Bulletins then farm many noobs for tax.
Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-07-06 11:28:22 UTC
Thanks OP. Eve was just crying out for another guide on how to spend all your time shooting red crosses.

Everyone knows that scamming is where you make the real money, and it requires zero SP.

If you send me isk and I will send DOUBLE the amount back!
Thar Saal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-07-06 11:30:21 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Thanks OP. Eve was just crying out for another guide on how to spend all your time shooting red crosses.

Everyone knows that scamming is where you make the real money, and it requires zero SP.

If you send me isk and I will send DOUBLE the amount back!



All fortunes are made in Jita local.
Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#15 - 2013-07-06 11:33:52 UTC
Sub Tzero wrote:
"Invest in a clear path that is PVP oriented and you will have no trouble making ISK."

Did you mean "PVE"?


No, I meant PVP, and PVE training is a perfect crossover for pvp. The skills you invest in for mission running can be useful in pvp.

The better you are at generating ISK the more options you will have to invest in branches.
But like I said you need a solid trunk before you begin to branch out.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.

Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
#16 - 2013-07-06 11:35:14 UTC
*Makes "Solo guide of how to make ISK"*

*Yells out in caps "DO NOT SALVAGE!!!"*

Stopped reading right there considering I made my first Billion on a "solo" character by salvaging/looting all my own wrecks and was able to build all my own ammo with the items I reprocessed and was in lvl 4 missions as soon as I had the skills trained to fly a battleship without having to buy a ton of faction-fit loot pinata stuffing.

[i]"The biggest problem with quotes on the Internet, is that just because it's on the Internet too many believe them to be real" -[/i]Abraham Lincoln's "Berlin Wall" speech at the 1984 Winter Olympics.

Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#17 - 2013-07-06 11:35:34 UTC
Thar Saal wrote:
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Thanks OP. Eve was just crying out for another guide on how to spend all your time shooting red crosses.

Everyone knows that scamming is where you make the real money, and it requires zero SP.

If you send me isk and I will send DOUBLE the amount back!



All fortunes are made in Jita local.



These are unpredictable returns and Jita is the last place a solo noob will make any money.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.

Thar Saal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2013-07-06 11:37:56 UTC
cyndrogen wrote:
Thar Saal wrote:
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Thanks OP. Eve was just crying out for another guide on how to spend all your time shooting red crosses.

Everyone knows that scamming is where you make the real money, and it requires zero SP.

If you send me isk and I will send DOUBLE the amount back!



All fortunes are made in Jita local.



These are unpredictable returns and Jita is the last place a solo noob will make any money.



------------------------------- the sarcasm ------------------------------

------------------------------- your head ----------------------------------

Cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#19 - 2013-07-06 11:38:08 UTC
Noddy Comet wrote:
*Makes "Solo guide of how to make ISK"*

*Yells out in caps "DO NOT SALVAGE!!!"*

Stopped reading right there considering I made my first Billion on a "solo" character by salvaging/looting all my own wrecks and was able to build all my own ammo with the items I reprocessed and was in lvl 4 missions as soon as I had the skills trained to fly a battleship without having to buy a ton of faction-fit loot pinata stuffing.



In the beginning lv 1, 2 and 3 salvage is not going to net much and the goal is to reach level 4 where salvage and loot can pay off as you kill rats. By turning over missions as fast as possible you can grind up to lv4 faster if you ignore all other distractions.

The goal is to run max missions per hour. Not make max ISK per hour, because isk cannot buy standings.

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.

Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-07-06 11:39:48 UTC
Noddy Comet wrote:
*Makes "Solo guide of how to make ISK"*

*Yells out in caps "DO NOT SALVAGE!!!"*

Stopped reading right there considering I made my first Billion on a "solo" character by salvaging/looting all my own wrecks and was able to build all my own ammo with the items I reprocessed and was in lvl 4 missions as soon as I had the skills trained to fly a battleship without having to buy a ton of faction-fit loot pinata stuffing.


Something I learned from being in a null corp: salvage, salvage, salvage.

What you don't waste = what you don't need to buy (or have shipped and possibly lose).

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

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