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Scamming, Double Agents, Ganks, Leaks: An admission (and my 2 ISK on Z9PP and Fountain)

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Anowon Charante
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-07-06 10:44:37 UTC
Yes I'm aware that this is an alt But as you can see, I have access to stuff!

Now, only an idiot would write this with his mane, for now, obvious reasons.

I've been playing EVE for years, and I've done it all.
Scammed
Stole for Corp Members
Sold Forum Access
Ganked
Awoxed
among others.

It's incredibly easy, it really really is! That's why I love EVE, what I do here will get me a permaban everywhere else!

Now, I can say I've done more.

I've been leaking GSF and CFC forum access to several sources for ISK. Most recently, EN24.
Now, I have nothing against the site besides it's obvious biased nature towards certain player groups. This nature also can be used in ways to get fast ISK. Some of what I leaked and then was posted was half truths. I'm not going into details on what exactly. Needless to say, I'm expecting a few emails today.

-Fountain War-

Now, this has been interesting indeed. I'm not going to go into detail about the war, there's better sources then here for that! This war has been fun, it really has! But some strategies are just plan stupid. Take CFC's "blueball everything" tactic. Sure, forumup 4-500 man fleets, stay in system, Mad Ani shows it live to everyone. Enemy fleet forums up, jumps 20 some odd systems under TiDi, blueball, they get pissed and not have fun. Both sides leaves. Sure, the enemy fleet gets pissed, and so does your own! Whenever you deny your enemy fun, you deny your fleet fun! Both are less inclined to join future fights. (Not just them.)

Why are you in this war?

I'd like every CFC member that question! Or how about they ask themselves that.
I'm only here for the fights, Z9PP was awesome, more on that later. But, why are the rest of you here? As an individual what do you have to gain? You'll more then likely still rat/mine in the system you did before. You don't really gain anything! If all this ISK that's being made was to fill everyone's pockets. Then how come you're paying for your own ships/fittings? The CFC was hoping for a quick war, that way they could reimburse members over a sustained period of time. A long and drawn out war will cause backups, and YOU (not the people in control of the wallets) will run out of ISK. I'm hearing it all the time in comms about people needing to sell stuff for doctrine stuff that's overpriced. Usually set by alliance leaders. Seems like a scam. If they weren't doing so, then why not hand out free ships before the fight. And I don't mean Frigs/Cruisers, I mean BS's and T2 stuff!

-Z9PP-

This battle was EPIC, I have to admit. It was the biggest battle to date! It kinda sucked what happened. It's kinda like watching the end of the Sopranos. I'm pretty sure someone punched a screen/keyboard/kitten (Sorry Falcon) Regardless on what actually happened. It was fun while it lasted! But, after the fight has been more entertaining. Goonswarm and friends are PISSED OFF! Usually when a node dies, they don't care all too much. When a node dies that benefits them (which happens alot) They troll away! When Z9PP died, it pissed them off royally! A beautiful example of this is GSF leaders website, mittens dot com. There's 6 articles on the top, 4 of them are rage at CCP about Z9PP! (at the time of this writing) They are, go look! It was obvious it was against them, it was crippling, they're mad. It goes to show you their leaders' mindsets, reminds me of that spoiled little brat you see in the shops. They get whatever they want, and when they don't they cry, kick, scream, etc. That's how I see Mittens, a big child. It's quite comical!

-Advice-

To CFC members; stop listening to a over-sized child who really doesn't log in anymore. Hell, he doesn't even log in to collect from the renters. (Yes, they have renters, but they don't call it that.) He has other slaves to do that for him!

To TEST and Co: You started this war out wrong, there was a reason CFC started out in Cruisers and the like. You started out all flashy, and went a little wild with the faction stuffs. Cheaper, easier for members to replace from the start. Stop tilting your hand with the Capitals! The CFC's Caps and Supers are their wildcard, and they'll only show that when people start to invade them. Use cheap **** that can easily be replaced. Draw out this war for as long as you can.

To Everyone else: Take BL and 401k's stance, they proved it's fun to shoot the CFC. Sure, Goons like to say it's not fun, and they'll ruin your game. IT'S JUST A SCARE TACTIC Nothing more, nothing less. If you have 20 guys and no idea what to shoot or where to camp, go to the following locations! You'll find Jump Bridges there. Blink
6-4V20 - Planet 3 Moon 1
J-OK0C - Planet 4 Moon 1
DO6H-Q - Planet 11 Moon 3
VFK-IV - Planet 4 Moon 5
YAO-XJ - Planet 7 Moon 20

Obunagawe
#2 - 2013-07-06 10:49:14 UTC
Anowon Charante wrote:

Now, only an idiot would write this with his mane, for now, obvious reasons.


Or a lion.
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-07-06 10:52:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ace Uoweme
Anowon Charante wrote:
Some of what I leaked and then was posted was half truths. I'm not going into details on what exactly. Needless to say, I'm expecting a few emails today.


That alone says, anything said is to be taken with the biggest grain of salt.

Because EvE's crime system does not take away a player's sense of morality/ethics that: once a liar, always a liar.

And...

Anowon Charante wrote:
I'm hearing it all the time in comms about people needing to sell stuff for doctrine stuff that's overpriced. Usually set by alliance leaders. Seems like a scam. If they weren't doing so, then why not hand out free ships before the fight. And I don't mean Frigs/Cruisers, I mean BS's and T2 stuff!


And now you know the other scam. Writing has been on the wall for years. It has a face called: Goons.

But like I keep on saying about mouthbreathers: they're too busy having fun pewpewpewing to think of the bigger picture, and what evolves.

Keep feeding the monster, and the monster will devour you in the end.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Thar Saal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-07-06 11:03:06 UTC
I feel any decent spy doesn't make posts congratulating themselves on spying.

i dont even really know what i read tbh. sounded like a biased newspaper, i had to check i wasent on mittani.


Jafit McJafitson
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-07-06 11:09:32 UTC
Anowon Charante wrote:
To TEST and Co: You started this war out wrong, there was a reason CFC started out in Cruisers and the like. You started out all flashy, and went a little wild with the faction stuffs. Cheaper, easier for members to replace from the start. Stop tilting your hand with the Capitals! The CFC's Caps and Supers are their wildcard, and they'll only show that when people start to invade them. Use cheap **** that can easily be replaced. Draw out this war for as long as you can.


Thanks for the advice bro. But the Imperial Navy Apocs were holdovers from the defense of Delve against AAA when Foxcats were first conceived. Standard apocs were buffed in Oddessy which rendered Napocs obsolete.

Secondly the CFC doesn't use caps because every time they do they get dunked. So I'm quite happy for us to use caps for what they're good at, which is shooting structures, which is what you need to do in a sov war.

By 'cheap **** that can easily be replaced' I hope you're not suggesting that we sneak out of our staging system in 'siege' bombers so that we can grind away at SBUs IHUBS and de-fanged POSes while retaining the ability to run away as soon as the enemy even pings for a fleet to chase us down, in which case no thanks. I'd rather de-SBU two entire constellations in 4 hours and reset a week of CFC siege bomber grinding than not field any caps at all.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-07-06 11:14:06 UTC
Anowon Charante wrote:
Yes, they have renters, but they don't call it that.


what do we call them then

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Thar Saal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-07-06 11:16:00 UTC
Andski wrote:
Anowon Charante wrote:
Yes, they have renters, but they don't call it that.


what do we call them then



unlucky?
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-07-06 11:16:01 UTC
Jafit McJafitson wrote:
Anowon Charante wrote:
To TEST and Co: You started this war out wrong, there was a reason CFC started out in Cruisers and the like. You started out all flashy, and went a little wild with the faction stuffs. Cheaper, easier for members to replace from the start. Stop tilting your hand with the Capitals! The CFC's Caps and Supers are their wildcard, and they'll only show that when people start to invade them. Use cheap **** that can easily be replaced. Draw out this war for as long as you can.


Thanks for the advice bro. But the Imperial Navy Apocs were holdovers from the defense of Delve against AAA when Foxcats were first conceived. Standard apocs were buffed in Oddessy which rendered Napocs obsolete.

Secondly the CFC doesn't use caps because every time they do they get dunked. So I'm quite happy for us to use caps for what they're good at, which is shooting structures, which is what you need to do in a sov war.

By 'cheap **** that can easily be replaced' I hope you're not suggesting that we sneak out of our staging system in 'siege' bombers so that we can grind away at SBUs IHUBS and de-fanged POSes while retaining the ability to run away as soon as the enemy even pings for a fleet to chase us down, in which case no thanks. I'd rather de-SBU two entire constellations in 4 hours and reset a week of CFC siege bomber grinding than not field any caps at all.


Don't feed the monster.

Any intel is better than no intel, even if it's misinformation.

"Loose lips, sink ships."

ePeening is how to just die and lose.

_"In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." _ ~George Orwell

Johan Toralen
IIIJIIIITIIII
#9 - 2013-07-06 11:26:56 UTC
Anowon Charante wrote:

Now, only an idiot would write this with his mane, for now, obvious reasons.


Bronian slip right there.
Darth Kilth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-07-06 11:46:08 UTC
Oh look, the same regurgitated nonsense that comes from all the Anti-CFC people but with an "I'm a Spy" twist.
Moctobot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-07-06 11:57:34 UTC
i had fun once and it was awful!
Praetor Meles
Black Mount Industrial
Breakpoint.
#12 - 2013-07-06 12:44:47 UTC
Anowon Charante wrote:
Now, only an idiot would write this with his mane, for now, obvious reasons.


Confirming: Not only is writing with your mane actually very challenging to do, it will leave it tangled and matted.

[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*

  • delete as required to make your point
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-07-06 12:50:09 UTC
Anowon Charante wrote:
Now, only an idiot would write this with his mane, for now, obvious reasons.



better write it in full lion or, you know, he might not like it that much and shred you into fillet mingon.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Barramuda
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-07-06 12:50:20 UTC
It would seem for all your "spying" skills you still do not understand WHY would a general / generic player be involved on CFC side.

Very well my good man, please allow me to elaborate. For you`r sake and sake of general confused populous.

Most grunts, like myself, are in this war for epic fights.

AH you will say, but you don't get them with blue balls tactic.
This is where your are wrong Sir. We do not get epic fights where we might loose or odds are not in our favor. Lacking to comprehend this simple yet very effective tactic says more of your lack of basic human interaction skills then anything else.

Those involved in this war see the situation very, very clearly. Why you do not is a matter for debate. But be it as it may please allow me to once again enlighten you on current events. TEST, for all intends and purposes, is dead. They have already lost the war. However their allies help them so much that they are crotch that keeps them going. I'm talking of course of NCdot with massive sub cap fleet and PL with sub cap fleet and largest super cap fleet in game.

If you have participated in Z9PP, you would have noticed PL has removed their caps off the field. Not for some strategy to "out flank CFC", but to save their capital fleet, that would probably die to CFC sub caps.

Wars are won in ISK lost vs ISK won by killing enemy expensive ships.

TEST will have allies linger for as long as they have fun and don't loose too much ISK. But as soon as tide of battle goes against HBC its, bye TEST and thanks for all the fish.

And when the dust settles and CFC claims moons they desire so much and plunder is divided amongst alliances,like carcass of a zebra between lions, us grunts will get new rating / mining / Mission / exploration space worth more then the one we have now. CFC will have more ISK in order to reimburse losses, in peace and war time and probably to hand out caps to pilots that can fly them, but don't want / are unable to pay the price for them.

How much or little Mittens plays is irrelevant.
He is leader of Goonswarm, largest alliance in CFC and as such his word holds weight when a decision must be made.

All in all I would say that war is going well and participation in fleets is at all time high.
Obunagawe
#15 - 2013-07-06 12:53:24 UTC
Barramuda wrote:
However their allies help them so much that they are crotch that keeps them going.


I lol'd. TEST is sustained by crotch. GG.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-07-06 12:55:01 UTC
crotch, manes. this thread has nearly everything! all it needs now is is a unicorn and a tiger playing poker in the middle of Chernobil.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Thar Saal
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2013-07-06 12:55:52 UTC
Obunagawe wrote:
Barramuda wrote:
However their allies help them so much that they are crotch that keeps them going.


I lol'd. TEST is sustained by crotch. GG.


i think he misread the teleprompter.

Barramuda
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-07-06 13:13:07 UTC
Its allmost as though English is not my primary language. Or even native.

But then again, those that can not comprehend or offer a good reply, they scream and shout holding to typo.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-07-06 13:29:34 UTC
Barramuda wrote:
Its allmost as though English is not my primary language. Or even native.

But then again, those that can not comprehend or offer a good reply, they scream and shout holding to typo.

no, you just posted something with funny typos in GD and expected serious replies.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Obunagawe
#20 - 2013-07-06 13:29:51 UTC
Barramuda wrote:
Its allmost as though English is not my primary language. Or even native.

But then again, those that can not comprehend or offer a good reply, they scream and shout holding to typo.


But then again, the idea of TEST needing crotch to survive is highly amusing and you are a hero for bringing it to our attention.
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