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My ship needs cleaning

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Sepherim
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2013-07-03 16:14:32 UTC
There's a small corporation based off Mabnen's Emperor Family, it's called Monocle Dispositions. I've heard they do miracles disposing of... well, anything. So I'm sure they might help.

Sepherim Catillah Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Liuteneant Ex-Imperial Navy Imperator Commander

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#22 - 2013-07-03 18:26:45 UTC
Kim Ji-Young wrote:
I got it for a bargain basement price (otherwise I wouldn't have been able to afford it at all) and it's because the cargo hold was so soiled. There were all these blood stains and bits of offal left in there from I-don't-know-what-went-down and I figured I could just clean all that up, but even after my crew got to it with the industrial cleaning gear there's still this residual stink and it's really annoying me (and before you haters say "it's the pilot" my other ships don't smell like this so shut up).

After you get it cleaned out, you need to get a priest in there to exorcise your cargo bay.

Otherwise, your crew members will disappear one by one only for others to stumble upon their horribly mutilated body. This negatively effects workplace morale.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Toluijin Chagangan
Doomheim
#23 - 2013-07-03 19:38:46 UTC
Box it, sell it, buy a new one.
Angus Adalwin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-07-03 22:30:48 UTC
Just as a word of caution, I would not spend any more time in that ship until a toxology expert has determined that the ship is not currently poisoning you. Biological agents (or whatever might have killed the original occupants) can be extremely dangerous, and hazardous chemicals do not necessarily leave behind a smell.
Depending on the toxologist, the cleaning supplies and expenses, and the time this could take, you might be better off reselling it and purchasing a new one.
Civ Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-07-04 00:30:51 UTC
Bathe yourself in Nanite paste.
Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#26 - 2013-07-04 01:07:07 UTC
Sepherim wrote:
There's a small corporation based off Mabnen's Emperor Family, it's called Monocle Dispositions. I've heard they do miracles disposing of... well, anything. So I'm sure they might help.


Cool, hook me up. You can always trust PIE.

Scherezad wrote:
I can direct you to a vendor of medical-grade disinfectants and solvents, if you like, ma'am. Naalox is particularly effective. Your sanitation engineers will need their hazmat suits if they are doing an entire cargo bay however.


My crew reckon that the stuff I've already used is "medical grade", but maybe that just means "sick enough to put you in a hospital".

Laurienne 'Quafegirl' Cherbourg wrote:
Quaf-

What, Anslo?! Are you trying to become a Quafegirl too?!


You really dropped the ball on this one. And you're normally so active promoting Quafe too. Tsk tsk.

Civ Kado wrote:
Bathe yourself in Nanite paste.


It's the ship that smells, not me.
Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#27 - 2013-07-04 01:22:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Kim Ji-Young
Toluijin Chagangan wrote:
Box it, sell it, buy a new one.


Angus Adalwin wrote:
Just as a word of caution, I would not spend any more time in that ship until a toxology expert has determined that the ship is not currently poisoning you. Biological agents (or whatever might have killed the original occupants) can be extremely dangerous, and hazardous chemicals do not necessarily leave behind a smell.
Depending on the toxologist, the cleaning supplies and expenses, and the time this could take, you might be better off reselling it and purchasing a new one.


Makkal Hanaya wrote:

After you get it cleaned out, you need to get a priest in there to exorcise your cargo bay.

Otherwise, your crew members will disappear one by one only for others to stumble upon their horribly mutilated body. This negatively effects workplace morale.


You capsuleers love your drama, don't you. Too many holoreels, you guys.

I realise that most people who start threads here post a lot of drama to make themselves seem more important, usually about how they're the third half-cousin of the Empress and then they got ostracised from the family for taking too much crash and then fell in with a traveling Brutor from Pator who turned out to be an escaped slave and then they both got arrested and tortured because the slave had seen parts to a secret new Amarr ship design and while this happened both their families got killed by some mysterious space pirates and now they're out for revenge if only they could decipher the mysterious markings left on the Brutor's skin by the torturers which are rumoured to be some kind of code... but my threads aren't like that.

I'm just a regular capsuleer who flies a ship like anybody else and when I start a thread here I usually just want some simple help, largely because I've got no idea what I'm doing half the time and am learning this stuff as I go. In this case, it's just a simple smell in a cargo hold. Everybody chill and just recommend some cleaning product or where I can get it cleaned thank you.

And no more "new ship" suggestions. I kind of like the AI on this one.
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2013-07-04 01:47:28 UTC
Anslo wrote:
No. It's just strong enough to clean tough stains.

Good for cleaning, bad for drinking.

One can always trust that everything in God's creation has a purpose. Thanks for pointing out that this is true for Quafe as well.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#29 - 2013-07-04 01:48:23 UTC
So be it.

When you find crewmember giblets decorating your freshly cleaned walls, don't say I didn't warn you.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#30 - 2013-07-04 01:52:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Kim Ji-Young
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
So be it.

When you find crewmember giblets decorating your freshly cleaned walls, don't say I didn't warn you.


I'm not even sure if the original giblets that I cleaned out of there were human anyway. I didn't care to look that closely, I just noticed a few gibs and said "right, crew, clean that stuff". Could have just been a livestock accident - sometimes people don't secure their livestock properly and then they cram their hold completely full, and things jostle around in there in flight and the animals get crushed. I suppose I should talk to my crew and find out exactly what they removed from there, I did ask one of them to take an inventory but I'm sure it's nothing all that interesting which is why I haven't gotten around to it.
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#31 - 2013-07-04 04:18:15 UTC
I remember reading in a tour book that there is some system out there that actually has a station devoted entirely to cleaning ships.

http://youtu.be/t0q2F8NsYQ0

Anslo
Scope Works
#32 - 2013-07-05 13:45:43 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Anslo wrote:
No. It's just strong enough to clean tough stains.

Good for cleaning, bad for drinking.

One can always trust that everything in God's creation has a purpose. Thanks for pointing out that this is true for Quafe as well.


You're welcome.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Velarra
#33 - 2013-07-05 18:42:47 UTC
In the event your Quafe reserves run low, or you would rather not deal with the saccharine nature of Quafe residue post rinsing, you can just as easily use nanite fluid based cleansing solutions typically sold in lowsec or null. Withdraw your crew to station, quarantine your ship, remotely release the nanites from their dispersion systems you will have spread about the impacted cargo hold. Forty eight hours later the nanite solution will have reached end of cycle, and your hold will be as pristine as the moment your ship was released from its dry dock assembly line.
Zelarrs Elkoth
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2013-07-05 20:38:59 UTC
Omen is a good ship.

Personally would just stay in the pod while flying it.

You can regulate sensory input, make sure smell is turned off.

Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris Captain, Head of Diplomacy, Recruiting Officer Contact on channel: "PIE Public" "I walk the razor's edge of embracing the future while protecting what we value of the past."

Nashuar Attor
Rat Kings Crew
#35 - 2013-07-06 00:52:33 UTC
I'd be inclined to start pulling up the deck plates. You may have cleaned the inside of the cargo hold but if a previous owner has been hauling beef or such like and the refrigeration units have gone down, then you can bet the highly perishable cargo will have started to liquify. If thats the case then you can bet it will have seeped into and through any little crack in the hold.
You've already said the ships not new, so if it was in a fight, had the freezers knocked out, earned a few stress fractures from impacts, and sold without a solid clean then BOOM, a ship that looks clean but has stink coming out of the walls.

You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.

Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#36 - 2013-07-06 03:46:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Kim Ji-Young
Velarra wrote:
In the event your Quafe reserves run low, or you would rather not deal with the saccharine nature of Quafe residue post rinsing, you can just as easily use nanite fluid based cleansing solutions typically sold in lowsec or null. Withdraw your crew to station, quarantine your ship, remotely release the nanites from their dispersion systems you will have spread about the impacted cargo hold. Forty eight hours later the nanite solution will have reached end of cycle, and your hold will be as pristine as the moment your ship was released from its dry dock assembly line.

I'm not going to smelly lowsec or I'll get the stench on the outside of my ship too.

Zelarrs Elkoth wrote:
Omen is a good ship.

Personally would just stay in the pod while flying it.

You can regulate sensory input, make sure smell is turned off.

I like my crew though. I realise that a lot of you go through crew at a very rapid pace but I haven't lost a crew member yet, and I use the same people all the time. I don't want to make their lives any more difficult than they already are - it's bad enough that they have to put up with me as the pilot.

Nashuar Attor wrote:
I'd be inclined to start pulling up the deck plates. You may have cleaned the inside of the cargo hold but if a previous owner has been hauling beef or such like and the refrigeration units have gone down, then you can bet the highly perishable cargo will have started to liquify. If thats the case then you can bet it will have seeped into and through any little crack in the hold.
You've already said the ships not new, so if it was in a fight, had the freezers knocked out, earned a few stress fractures from impacts, and sold without a solid clean then BOOM, a ship that looks clean but has stink coming out of the walls.

Last night while warping between systems, some of the guys in the rear crew annex heard a crunching sound. We docked up and checked it out, it turned out that a whole wall of tiles fell off the side of the communal shower block. Investigating further, we pulled the bottom row of tiles out - and there was that smell again! The bathroom is right on the other side of the cargo bay, and as it happens, the offal or whatever-the-hell had gone through gaps in the metal cargo bay walls, through the concrete on the other side that holds the bathroom together, and seeped into the tile grout, corroding it. So we're now ripping out the whole underfloor and re-doing the walls, that should fix the problem.

Wow, who would have thought that a Minimatar would have the correct answer all along? But then you guys DO spend a lot more time than most races in Amarr cargo bays, so I guess it makes sense. Anyway thank you.
Nashuar Attor
Rat Kings Crew
#37 - 2013-07-06 09:26:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Nashuar Attor
Kim Ji-Young wrote:


Wow, who would have thought that a Minimatar would have the correct answer all along? But then you guys DO spend a lot more time than most races in Amarr cargo bays, so I guess it makes sense. Anyway thank you.



Well I can't say I've spent much time in Amarrian cargo holds, though I do possess an Abbadon, somewhere, I must admit to having turned a vast number of Amarr built vessels inside out. The subsequent salvage operations showed that the alloys used in the cargo holds of some Amarr built ships, while being very strong, was also very brittle and tends to crack and fracture under concussive shock (such as 1200mm heavy artillery) leading to the radiation shielding in the inner hull being exposed. If you're gonna trap a stink, thats where you put it.

I guess I should find your condescension offensive, but I tend to be a realist, and well, you are Amarrian, so... you're welcome.

You'll have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel.

Angus Adalwin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-07-07 01:41:31 UTC
Nashuar Attor wrote:

I guess I should find your condescension offensive, but I tend to be a realist, and well, you are Amarrian, so... you're welcome.


I'm impressed by such a fine example of diplomacy.
Lumadane
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-07-10 19:32:16 UTC
*Slams the airlock door shut* What was that about someone not loosing any crew yet?
Kim Ji-Young
Ji Young Kim Bap
#40 - 2013-07-11 05:33:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Kim Ji-Young
Lumadane wrote:
*Slams the airlock door shut* What was that about someone not loosing any crew yet?


I don't allow my crew to loosen their clothing while flying. Stray fabric can get caught on sharp edges, it's an OH&SW hazard, plus I don't want to deal with workers compensation claims, so I make sure my crew know that correct dress sense is expected of them.
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