Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I don't mean to derail the topic, but why not spend the time and resources allocated towards this work on POS upgrades which will win you serious loyalty and kudos from your existing [and paying] customers?

will this make it easier to tell the Q key from the Z key?

The certificate adjustment and adding more of them I like.

But the renaming of skill categories I feel is a waste of time; it doesn't terribly do anything drastic other than change of a few names. And I feel like it is being considered as 'change for the sake of change to avoid stagnation.'

Spaceship Piloting is just bad. I didn't mention it on my first post because I figured it would quickly get changed but it hasn't yet so I must say something.

'Space Ship Control' (or Command), or more concise; 'Ship Control/Command' would be a better route to take if you MUST rename the category (I don't see a reason)

CPU Management is not immersion friendly and sounds bad (Same with Power Grid Management, and, well all of your current name changes)

You can be specific and explanatory with your naming conventions without being robotic.

Just a few ideas;

Processor Enhancement
Processor Management
Computer Engineering
Electronics Engineering (Since the sole reason for this change as you said is to not have the skill name be the same as the category name)


Target Management
Advanced Target Management

Power Core Management
Power Core Enhancement


Category gripes:

Renaming the Electronics category and shifting some skills around sure, but if you're switching it to only offensive Electronic Warfare skills then switch it to something along those lines. Not 'Electronic System' (See point above about being robotic).

Ideas:
Electronic Warfare?
Offensive Electronic Systems
Offensive Electronics

Cutting down Missile Launcher Operation I can understand but again with the robotic approach.

Ideas:

Missile Operation?
Missile Control

My original gripes were with regard to you guys needlessly over complicating the sorting. Merging the subsystems and Rigs skills into one category is counterproductive as well as splitting up the Planetary interaction skills into how ever many different places you are putting them.

I would strongly suggest, however, splitting the spaceship command skills into racial folders with an Advanced Ship Command folder for all of the non-racial ship command skills. There are FAR too many skills in this category that can easily be sorted down to something more manageable.

Minmatar Ship Command
-Minmatar Frigate
-Minmatar Cruiser
-

Amarr Ship Command
-
-

Caldari Ship Command
-
-

Gallente Ship Command
-
-

Advanced Ship Command
-Interceptors
-Recon Ships
-

Spaceship Command and
Advanced Spaceship Command could be moved to Navigation since they affect align time and are technically navigation skills in practice.

Tech 3 Ship Command

( would say move the Strategic Cruiser skills into this folder rather than the Ship Command folders but they could fit in either place.)

That's all the moaning I have for you now. I'll think of more later probably.

'spaceship piloting' - honestly? You'd rather call it that than spaceship command? 'Spaceship Piloting' is the dumbest name for a skill group in EVE you could've come up with... What has this EA man done to you, CCP...

And don't even get me started on how stupid 'multiple targeting' sounds...

I have to say I like most of the changes except the part about lumping the subsystems skills in with Ship Modifications, I honestly believe that the subsystems need to remain their own group or a sub group under Ship modifications.

This. Absolutely.

Keep Spaceship Command and Advanced Spaceship Command. If you must change the group name, change it to Spaceship Operation. Or do it the other way around.

Subsystems are not rigs. Don't group them together.

Non sequitur: What happens to a capsuleer who is killed when outside his pod?

i think you guys should review the complete set of drone skills.

Just took another quick look and its full with inconsistencies.

example:
scout drone operation -> (scout?) drone range (is the description even correct? doesn't count for heavies?)
combat drone operation -> light + medium dps (heavy drones are no combat drones?)
heavy drone operation -> dps
sentry drone interfacing -> dps
electronic warfare drone interfacing -> drone range for all drones

thanks for listening, much appreciated

there are loads of inconsistencies with skills names and effects.
Drone skills need a good re balance and new ones added
Guns need sorting out needing small specs in order to train large specs make no sense.
missiles skills need reducing from 10% to 5% to be brought back into line with the rest of the skills.
T3 subs should take longer to train and remove SP loss
T3 ships shouldn't need cruiser lv5 as a pre-req to train
add a shield extender efficiency skill that reduces sig rad penalty by 5% on shield extenders