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Ok, so I figured I had to get this out of my system. I have spent the last 3hrs feeling sick to my stomach and almost in tears. I will explain my story and hopefully you will understand why I decided to share it with you.

I started playing EVE a few months ago. Things started out smoothly enough, found a good corporation who were active with mining, helping noobs out with advice about skill training and working towards incursions once we had enough active commited players. Unfortunatly, the corporation fell quiet for a few months due to real life stuff. I stook around for a while before deciding to try my hand at faction warefare. I had never really given much thought about the pvp side of EVE so I figured this would be a good chance for me to experience the full range of the game. Anyway, I signed up at the Militia office and within a few hours, was invited to join a Faction Warfare active corporation called BIOHAZARD. This was on the 1st of July this year. I explained to everyone that this was my first time actively participating in this side of the game and I was greated warmly into the corporation. a day or two went by, I lost a few ships and pods. One evening, while chatting with fellow corp members on teamspeak, two FC's came online(as my luck would have it) and decided to spend a couple of hours showing me the various GUI setups for running plex's and running fleets. not only did these two FC's show me the basics, they ran through a few plex's with me and a couple of others, and when I lost my ship, they donated a new one to me at no cost to myself. I was well chuffed. here I was, a complete noob, and this corporation was throwing me a lifeline into what I hoped would be a fruitful and exciting career in BIOHAZARD and faction warfare.

Everything was fine until a few hours ago (3rd July). After I had lost numerous small frigates and not wanting to be seen to be taking the **** out of the corp by asking for a new ship, I decided to spend this evening in my retriever mining enough so that I could build up a few frigates that I could run with the corporation. (I had pretty much spent all my isk prior to joining FW building a hurricane with tier 2 gear and lost two of them when i decided to take them out on some missions while they were not fully equiped, thinking i would pwn). So, this evening i was merily mining away in a high sec area (Brybier) when I was attacked. like an idiot, I wasn't keeping an eye on my scanner and didnt see the ship until it was too late. My retriever was destroyed, and thankfully, my pod was spared. I limped back to the base cursing holy hell at the player who had destroyed my ship. I mentioned my loss in BIOHAZARDS corp chat hoping for at least some words of encouragement and solidarity. Instead, I was kicked from the corporation. (Bare in mind that I had been on teamspeak all night and not one single corp member said anything to me about my noobish conduct) I found myself shaking and feeling like my lungs had just been ripped out. Anyway, I still had access to the alternate corp chat (BIOHAZARD PUB) so I inquired as to why I had been kicked out. The reply I got pretty much made me feel completly gutted. "Because you are ****" 10 ships lost and zero kills (actually 5 ships lost and 5 pods killed) but hey, **** happens right? like I said before, I was new to this side of EVE, and I had learned more in the past few days, than I had in the past few months. I knew I was lame, but I was learning, and losing ships is how you learn sometimes, hence the reasoning behind me mining instead of being given ships by the corp. I had pretty much joined every fleet and run on every plex that was put out in the few days that I was with BIOHAZARD, and the one night I decided to do some mining to try and fund myself so i wasn't waisting corp ships, I get spat on and treated like scum. I know I can get ships from LP's, but I literally didn't have enough isk to buy a ship to run, hence the mining.

So there you have it. "welcome to EVE" blaring through my head like a megaphone on cocaine and BIOHAZARD leaving me feeling like I have just had my heart torn out. I was ready to give my all, and do whatever it took to practice, learn, practice, practice and learn in order that I could become a major player in helping BIOHAZARD advance their goals in faction warfare as well as anywhere else that my skills could have been helpfull.

Its not all bad though, since the incident, and having my rant in local, a few people have come forward to offer me places in corporations that treat new players with some courtesy at least.

k/d ratio matters for some folks, I feel for you man. Don't let it get you down not every corp is like that.

It's the retriever lost in high sec that did you in. Having something like that on your killboard turns a proud hunting corp into a bunch of victims. You should have consulted with your vets and they would have told you. Even in a newb friendly corp like EVE university getting killed in a barge in high sec is enough to warrant a kick. I suspect from their side they would have rather given you 50 frigs to waste then have that one loss. It is not about the isk, it is the thought and the loss of honor and pride.

In time you will understand where you went wrong and why they reacted the way they did. Don't let it get to you though, you were new and still learning, you are not to blame... If they had a rule about this they should have informed you about it upon joining.

Fly Elegantly o/

Just told you why.. it is up to you to accept it or be stubborn about it. Fact is you share a killboard with the rest of your corp and having a new player getting himself victimized in a mining barge in gentle high sec of all places reflects badly upon the skill of the leadership and the overall corp. It makes them look like newbs and fools themselves. It wouldn't have looked nearly as bad if it had only happened in low or 0.0.

Basically you were the high school senior failing a 1st grade spelling test, putting your teachers through such shame that they expelled you from the high school.

While I don't approve of them treating you this way since you had the best of intentions, I do understand their reaction and am simply trying to explain it to you so you wouldn't take it personally and learn from it.

That's harsh. They were wrong taking you in in the first place if they couldn't hack the learning curve you have to go through...

"we will ******* pop your asses back to pator tech school" -- Maximus Decimal

Confirming they need to be taken down a notch. Binkii, if you're up for jumping into PvP and actively learning how to do it while also shooting BIOHAZARD in the face, come around my corp's channel (see sig). We have them set red after a little bit of an incident with some high-and-mighty attitudes.

You're really not making any case for not needing to be taken down a notch, especially with all the blathering and chestbeating about how killboard stats make you awesome.

I get it, influencing the warzone is a cool thing, and good job on that. Don't make the assumption that everyone aims for the same thing, or that playing FW on a macro scale gives you the right to lord over people and expect them to kiss your feet. That's the sort of thing that ends in losing super pro faction fit Cynabals.

Anyway, this is off topic. On topic, it's unfortunate that OP had to learn about corp cleanups the hard way, but there it is. I made some negative assumptions myself, which turned out wrong.

I insure you it is by no means "chest Beating", While it can be considered being proud of our achievements, we have had to put in the effort and work for them in the first place which I feel earns us the right to be happy with what we have done. We are proud of our activity and our contribution to the warzone and quite frankly I have no idea why we should not be. If fielding battlecruisers against two Cynabals and a thorax, killing two and losing two, is an achievement then by all means be proud of it, just don't forget that it came about due to you killing somebody who was blue to you on more then one occasion.

On to the matter that this thread was actually created for, Binkii It is unfortunate that those kills had to come to our attention at the time it did, we made a collective decision to tighten up and start building a strong core that we can build on for the future. You should by no means take our actions personally, you were not the first nor the last as we will always be checking up and making sure people adhere to our standards, with out which we could never achieve what we seek and strive for.

Biohazard has no intention to alienate anybody, but we have to make diplomatic, strategic decisions that will first and foremost benefit the corporation and its members.

Yep, there are spiteful idiots in EVE.
The good thing is, you'll soon find a corp with nice reasonable people im sure.

PS: dude, use your enter key.

That might be a way to go, or it might not be. It also all depends on your corps objectives and as Maximus already stated the focus for us has shifted.

I do however wish Binkii all the best in his capsuler career.