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Expansions should cost $

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Capt Gauss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2013-07-03 15:32:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Capt Gauss
In reality, OP is the new senior executive gauging the response of the eve public on micro-transactions.

Research...76% Complete


Also, you also fail to realize the PLEX is what keeps our economy so stable. From the amount of isk that people generate in L4 missions and what not, there simply is not enough ships being blown up for the currency to stay as stable as it is. However with the fact that 500 million isk is destroyed every single month so many people can stay in the game is one of the biggest "deflaters" in the game. The reason why GW2 isn't as popular as WoW or even...eve... is because its economy is in the dumps. Microtransactions provide no way of deflating the economy, and the stereotypical "repair" mechanic in which people have to spend money to repair armor isn't good enough. So currency is just inflating out of control, the price of an item nearly quadrupled in price in four months.

tldr; PLEX is what makes our economy so bada$$
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#62 - 2013-07-03 15:32:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Paul Panala wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
@Doc Fury

geesh,

1:05 mark "descent percentage of our user base" use plex to play.

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You didn't say "decent percentage" in your OP now did you? You said a majority, which means more than 50%.

lol just wow


He is right, a "decent percentage" could easily be 25% or less. Either way, what is your point? Do you feel like the game is somehow hurt buy people who play for free? CCP makes money from those PLEX, so they are not really playing for free, they are playing because they traded with another person who is paying double.


Pay attention P3ps1 Max. This is an example of someone who understands how both language and PLEX work.




Anyways, this topic was about how ccp could bring in more revenue.


Way to move the goalposts now that your primary argument has been destroyed.

Ace, is that you?

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
slam34
Transtar Services
#63 - 2013-07-03 15:33:30 UTC
random brand new toons starting threads on F2P after CCP announces hiring of F2P guy from EA. stealth dev, or metagaming opponents trolling. Wait, where's my tinfoil hat now?

High sec: That's the tutorial. Null Sec is the actual game. Wormholes? Even CCP isn't sure.
Enris Athonille
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#64 - 2013-07-03 15:33:55 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:



Anyways, this topic was about how ccp could bring in more revenue. Glad to know Plex is the backbone of the game.


Attract more players.

/thread
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#65 - 2013-07-03 15:34:20 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:

What is up with you and the wow references.



Doc Fury wrote:


Ace, is that you?




You know........

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#66 - 2013-07-03 15:35:10 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Paul Panala wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
@Doc Fury

geesh,

1:05 mark "descent percentage of our user base" use plex to play.

- - - - - - - - - -


You didn't say "decent percentage" in your OP now did you? You said a majority, which means more than 50%.

lol just wow


He is right, a "decent percentage" could easily be 25% or less. Either way, what is your point? Do you feel like the game is somehow hurt buy people who play for free? CCP makes money from those PLEX, so they are not really playing for free, they are playing because they traded with another person who is paying double.


Pay attention P3ps1 Max. This is an example of someone who understands how both language and PLEX work.




Anyways, this topic was about how ccp could bring in more revenue.


Way to move the goalposts now that your primary argument has been destroyed.

Ace, is that you?


What Argument? lol

Ace?

How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#67 - 2013-07-03 15:36:11 UTC
Enris Athonille wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:



Anyways, this topic was about how ccp could bring in more revenue. Glad to know Plex is the backbone of the game.


Attract more players.

/thread


This too
Intar Medris
KarmaFleet University
#68 - 2013-07-03 15:37:44 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Intar Medris wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year Question

A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia .

To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.Cool

Go back to back to WOW.



Go back to your cave. Constructive feedback please.

Your a ******* a noon with a brilliant idea how to... What lose much of EVE's player base? Not to mention one of its biggest assets. The biggest reason I don't play WOW or any of its clones is because of the paid expansions. I am not paying a company 15-20 per month then have to pay for DLC or expansions. It is people like you that stupid enough to fall for that **** that gaming studios nickel and dime us to death now. Pay $60 for a half assed game then spend $60-100 more on the DLC that completes the product. If gaming companies pulled this **** in 80s gaming wouldn't have survived that decade.

I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2013-07-03 15:39:11 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Paul Panala wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
@Doc Fury

geesh,

1:05 mark "descent percentage of our user base" use plex to play.

- - - - - - - - - -


You didn't say "decent percentage" in your OP now did you? You said a majority, which means more than 50%.

lol just wow


He is right, a "decent percentage" could easily be 25% or less. Either way, what is your point? Do you feel like the game is somehow hurt buy people who play for free? CCP makes money from those PLEX, so they are not really playing for free, they are playing because they traded with another person who is paying double.


lol you seriously believe every plex on the market was purchased by someone? I could be wrong and if so I stand corrected.
Bear


Ok, it's confirmed.

Dude's trolling us. No one is THIS ******* clueless about how PLEX work.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#70 - 2013-07-03 15:39:25 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:

Ace?




www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYIfDAHeIWs

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#71 - 2013-07-03 15:41:06 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:



How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz


That would imply I needed alts to point out you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Fortunately a lot of the EVE community does have a clue and did this for me.

Try harder.

☼

There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#72 - 2013-07-03 15:41:10 UTC
Intar Medris wrote:


Your a ******* a noon with a brilliant idea how to... What lose much of EVE's player base? Not to mention one of its biggest assets. The biggest reason I don't play WOW or any of its clones is because of the paid expansions. I am not paying a company 15-20 per month then have to pay for DLC or expansions. It is people like you that stupid enough to fall for that **** that gaming studios nickel and dime us to death now. Pay $60 for a half assed game then spend $60-100 more on the DLC that completes the product. If gaming companies pulled this **** in 80s gaming wouldn't have survived that decade.



+1

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Where is the nearest mission for your church?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
flakeys
Doomheim
#73 - 2013-07-03 15:43:03 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
/me awaits a new region AND a new shipclass with at least every expansion then offcourse .... Roll


just like the other mmorpgs eh ...

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#74 - 2013-07-03 15:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: P3ps1 Max
Intar Medris wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Intar Medris wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
I've seen quite a few posts regarding this F2P nonsense. The best avenue to take for the company 'imo', is to charge for an expansion(s). With 4 expansions each year with a set price at 19.99$ or 1 expansion with 3 content updates during the year Question

A company that comes to mind that is extremely successful with this is Guild Wars 2 (which is a pretty bad ass game) which doesn't charge a cent to play each month. They do however have a **** load of micro-transactions from their market place but those items are not game changing but rather clothing and other cool paraphernalia .

To me Eve is setup for success using this business model.Cool

Go back to back to WOW.



Go back to your cave. Constructive feedback please.

Your a ******* a noon with a brilliant idea how to... What lose much of EVE's player base? Not to mention one of its biggest assets. The biggest reason I don't play WOW or any of its clones is because of the paid expansions. I am not paying a company 15-20 per month then have to pay for DLC or expansions. It is people like you that stupid enough to fall for that **** that gaming studios nickel and dime us to death now. Pay $60 for a half assed game then spend $60-100 more on the DLC that completes the product. If gaming companies pulled this **** in 80s gaming wouldn't have survived that decade.



I totally agree that some of the nickle and dimming that goes on in the gaming industry today is complete bulls^&T. I was a huge fan of Modern Warfare but what pulled me away was the map packs that came out every few months. I think now they even sell different skins for weapons lol

Bf3 and bf4 for me Cool
Paul Panala
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#75 - 2013-07-03 15:44:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Paul Panala
Quote:

lol you seriously believe every plex on the market was purchased by someone? I could be wrong and if so I stand corrected.
Bear


Yes I do. Why on Earth would it be any other way? Why would CCP add PLEX to the market? Doing so would take money right out of their pocket!!

I have often wondered the opposite, if every PLEX buy order on the market is real. CCP buying PLEX off the market would basically be like free money for them! If the value of a PLEX ever goes much below 500 mil I have no doubt in my mind that they do this.
P3ps1 Max
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#76 - 2013-07-03 15:52:11 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:



How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz


That would imply I needed alts to point out you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Try harder.


lol Geeee, thanks. I have no clue about plex? Well darn I'll read a book on it later.Roll
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#77 - 2013-07-03 15:54:09 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
I have no clue about plex?


That, at least, I am pretty sure we can all agree on.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Shaera Taam
Khanid Prime Free Irregulars
#78 - 2013-07-03 15:54:29 UTC
/rolls her eyes at the troll... And everyone else feeding the troll.

In a non-instanced game such as EVE, not paying the expansion fee is de facto unsubbing, for the simple reason that not having the expansion shuts you out of the code-base.

CCP charging for an expansion would be seen as a blatant-money grab and would cost them more customers than they could possibly make up with the expansion fee.

It is my personal opinion that CCPs current model is really just about as optimal a setup as they can ask for. PLEX was a stroke of frickin genius... It gives CCP a monthly kicker to their sub income and allows the player-base the illusion of being able to "play for free." Genius.

...dammit, now i gotta roll my eyes at myself...

Roll

Thus Spake the Frigate Goddess!
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#79 - 2013-07-03 15:56:20 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Expansions should cost $


They already do, it costs $15/mo.


Yea, when majority of the player base is playing for free. But then you have new players with a high turnover ratio paying the bills.

To me this would give CCP greater revenue while providing larger content to its players. More content is a win win for everyone.



To you? Based off what evidence?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#80 - 2013-07-03 15:57:22 UTC
P3ps1 Max wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
P3ps1 Max wrote:



How many alts have you posted on this thread? lulz


That would imply I needed alts to point out you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Try harder.


lol Geeee, thanks. I have no clue about plex? Well darn I'll read a book on it later.Roll



You have proven to have no clue whatsoever, this is not just limited to PLEX.



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There's a million angry citizens looking down their tubes..at me.