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how to make a safe and the dif types of safes (Video)

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Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#1 - 2013-06-19 02:04:50 UTC
I made a video for all of you rookies on how to make a safe. The types of safes that I cover are the following. Also, go to the following link to watch how you can make your own safes. http://youtu.be/-dipeDgNeuk

Deep safes

Unsafe

Tri safe

Gate safe

Instant jump

Instant dock

Instant undock

Station safes



There is never a 100% in this game. But, knowing this is better than not knowing, when it comes to saving your ships.

(Don't share safes if all possible. Corp safes are obviously better than nothing, but they aren't safe. So I made this video to show you how to make your own.)

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#2 - 2013-06-19 03:07:03 UTC
The video is up

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Anti-social Tendencies
Society for Miner Education
#3 - 2013-06-19 20:52:39 UTC
I'm not new and I already know how to make and use safe spots. But I plan on checking out the videos because I can always learn. This is a great idea for helping newer players. Thank you.

"Patience: n, a minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue." - AMBROSE PIERCE

Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#4 - 2013-06-19 21:27:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Craig Bennett2th
Anti-social Tendencies wrote:
I'm not new and I already know how to make and use safe spots. But I plan on checking out the videos because I can always learn. This is a great idea for helping newer players. Thank you.



Thanks. Keep note that there is never a 100% when it comes to keeping your ship alive. But, safes are better than nothing.

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-07-02 23:59:48 UTC
12:00 it's more commonly known as a "mid safe" and you cannot be decloaked by passing ships in warp

the only way someone could decloak you at that kind of safe is if they bookmarked the exact same spot and somehow managed to run into you.

Your explanation of "triangulation safe" makes absolutely no sense and doesn't even exist.

A "jump safe" is actually not safe at all, because you are at warpable range on a gate where people might be camping and a lot of people also drop probes on top of gates to punt the fleet into something if the target is on grid at a gate. You will get people killed advising people to do this.

"Instant Jump" is redundant since you always land at 0 on a gate when coming out of warp.

Really you are setting people up to fail if anyone takes your videos seriously.
Ace Menda
Gemini Lounge
#6 - 2013-07-03 06:39:56 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
And again a crap video with loads or ERRORS in it. *snip* Please refrain from discussing forum moderation. ISD Ezwal.

OP: As with your other videos. Get your facts and knowledge right first before making a video and claiming it will help new players. Atm, you are hurting new players more then helping them by giving them information that is false.

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Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#7 - 2013-07-03 14:18:48 UTC
It's not really that complicated:

SAFE POINTS:

Truly random spot in space: take some missions in the system, save the spot in bookmarks when you get one nicely above or below the plane of the ecliptic and far from any celestials.

Slightly less random/safe: hitting "save location" halfway through warping between a couple celestials. You'll be in a general region where people can narrow it down faster, but they'll still have to use probes. You can do this multiple times to get a slightly less obvious position, but in all frankness you'll still be within the volume of the ecliptic and they'll have to use probes regardless so you gain little from the extra work.

Just off the grid: what it sounds like, go to a celestial or station, fly out until you don't see ships and so on anymore (1000 km +). Not terribly safe as such, but great for annoying people scanning you down because you'll show up as in the belt or whatever at a distance.

NOT "SAFE" BUT MAKES YOU A BIT SAFER:

Leaping out from a dock: exit dock, travel 200 to 1000 km, bookmark. Next time you undock, instantly tell your ship to warp there to "insta" away from the docking point. Note that this isn't as powerful as it once was: to mitigate the abuse of collision mechanics, CCP introduced a random trajectory factor, so there will still be some small delay while you align many times.

Avoiding drag bubbles in null-sec: Line up your view from the gate to all other gates/major celestials/etc. Fly 200km+ away from the gate in a direction that is at as close to a right angle from all of these directions as possible. When warping to this gate, use that point instead. You path on warp-in is now much less likely to drop you in a bubble position.

JUST GENERALLY BOOKMARKING THINGS:

If you have an established territory, especially if you're a scout for your 0.0 corp, it's good to just have random points that give you a good d-scan view of various celestials and so on bookmarked on general principle. If you're a miner, having a point 500km off in a random direction from the belts in low-sec so that you can check for bogeys before warping in is never a bad plan, if you're missioning then manually bookmarking so you can loot after the turn-in can be handy, and so on.

(The first, "random point in space", are what I usually call "deep safes" because they're the most annoying to track down. The term used to mean something else beyond even probe range in most cases, but that got nerfed by the developers so they aren't a thing anymore.)
Kyra Quinn
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-07-03 14:39:35 UTC
I really do appreciate the effort but it's difficult to actually hear what you're saying and the music isn't helping.
Craig Bennett2th
Bennett Corp
#9 - 2013-07-03 17:25:45 UTC
Kyra Quinn wrote:
I really do appreciate the effort but it's difficult to actually hear what you're saying and the music isn't helping.


Thanks for the heads up on the music. Is the music too loud, or too distracting?

Hell is around every turn. It's your choice to go in it or not. Please check out the Rookies in EVE video playlist. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLioOFeHwQV5yNk2vpz8wX9hihLVQEIKLt

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-07-03 19:36:46 UTC
Craig Bennett2th wrote:
Kyra Quinn wrote:
I really do appreciate the effort but it's difficult to actually hear what you're saying and the music isn't helping.


Thanks for the heads up on the music. Is the music too loud, or too distracting?


way to address the problems that matter the most Roll