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No More Highsec Ganking

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Coreola
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2013-07-02 14:12:06 UTC
Part of what makes Eve so unique is there is some level of risk in everything you do. There's no 100% safe place in Eve after you've undocked. There's no time out button. If a gang of people are willing to blow themselves up by Concord in the process of killing you in high-sec, then so be it.

While I understand you'd like to be able to pick and choose the parts of Eve you participate in without that choice being infringed upon, it's just not Eve.

My sole activity in Eve for the first couple years I played was running level 4's. Eventually, I moved to a system closer to Amarr to make trips to the market more convenient. As a result, I had my first run-in's with players scanning down my mission site and stealing my salvage/loot from under me while I was in other rooms. While my initial thought was this was complete crap that they could steal my hard-earned loot, I realized this mechanic was intentionally put into Eve.

The ability for one player to disrupt another player's game play is what makes Eve great. No man is an island, and you and your high-sec mining fleets aren't either. Every single pilot, including high sec miners, are a part of Eve, and occasionally people will do things that **** you off to remind you of it.


Jump, jump, jump.

Radhe Amatin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-07-02 14:15:24 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
Dear Fellow Eve Players,

It is high time we end highsec ganking. PVP shoud be changed so players have the option if they want to PVP in High sec or not.

Pros:
+ Easier for new players to get acclimated
+ Industry can move freely
+ Less grief for those who don't want to PVP

I propose we have a flag you can turn on and off at will, this way you can PVP when you want.

Please discuss.

Zah Damaja
Chief of Highsec Mining Operations
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Southeast Division

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” -Sun Tzu, The Art of War


HELL NO. stop crying because u lost your billions isk freighter or pve ship or whatever.
If you are afraid of losing stuff to gankers stay docked and watch outside the window....if u can find one.
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#43 - 2013-07-02 14:35:50 UTC
The PVP Flag idea Sounds to much like WoW so no!

But please show the court where the Ganker penetrated your ship when you were AFK.
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
#44 - 2013-07-02 14:50:10 UTC
Posting in a troll thread

or in a "TEST are worse than I thought how is that even possible" thread
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#45 - 2013-07-02 14:54:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Zah Damaja
I have put a lot of time and thought into this. I do not understand where the hoards of trolls are coming from trying to attack me personally.

Are there no moderators on the Eve Online Universe forums? Is this Forum PVP?

Obviously the PVP flag works for other VERY POPULAR games. The proof is in the pudding. People love this idea and just because some of you are too immature to understand it is not my fault.

This would be great for the Eve Online Universe.

Serious discussion only please.

BELOW THIS POST IS A TROLL FREE ZONE THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-07-02 15:01:41 UTC
There is no such thing as a troll free zone in a troll thread.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

TehCloud
Guardians of the Dodixie
#47 - 2013-07-02 15:02:46 UTC
Your Idea is horrible. The whole concept of EvE is about the players being in a harsh, relentless and unforgiving environment.

Everytime you undock you agree to nonconsensual pvp, so deal with it.

My Condor costs less than that module!

NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#48 - 2013-07-02 15:05:02 UTC
Although I applaud your initiative I suspect that the mining community is not yet ready for CCP to move all asteroids belts to lowsec.

Making New Eden a better place 8 rounds of Void at a time.

Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.

Proud shareholder in Halaima MinerBumping

Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#49 - 2013-07-02 15:15:25 UTC
The only way to balance such a proposal would be to eliminate all forms of ISK income that could not be achieved exclusively when docked.
All reward and access indexes are currently balanced with consideration of PvP risk, however remote that may seem.

Transporting goods specifically requires undocking, so while you could have market access to other areas, local access to goods would be prohibited.

No missions, or mining, or NPC's to be shot at.

Possible use: Setting up your HUD and overview in a safe area.
Parading expensive ships considered gank targets in high sec.

Access to these systems would need to be restricted if player is on cool down for hostility timers.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#50 - 2013-07-02 16:31:53 UTC
I think if we had some sort of cooldown for the timer so that you couldn't switch it on and off at will it would make sense. This feature, to choose when to PVP, would add a lot to this game.

I also noticed some trolling after I declared the remainder of this thread a NO TROLL ZONE. Please refrain.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Mag's
Azn Empire
#51 - 2013-07-02 16:36:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
I was going to give this thread 6/10, because although his OP was obviuosly a troll it made me laugh. It's also something that wouldn't happen. But his posts on this page have made me re-evaluate this..

He's trying way too hard, poor effort. 1/10

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#52 - 2013-07-02 16:38:53 UTC
Mag's wrote:
I was going to give this thread 6/10, but his posts on this page have made me re-evaluate this..

He's trying way too hard, poor effort. 1/10


Umm the only thing I'm trying hard about is keeping trolls like you out of my legitimate idea to improve this game. Thanks for wasting everyones time.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Mag's
Azn Empire
#53 - 2013-07-02 16:40:48 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
Mag's wrote:
I was going to give this thread 6/10, but his posts on this page have made me re-evaluate this..

He's trying way too hard, poor effort. 1/10


Umm the only thing I'm trying hard about is keeping trolls like you out of my legitimate idea to improve this game. Thanks for wasting everyones time.
Way too hard. Try learning from this failure and you'll do much better next time. Well, one would hope so.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#54 - 2013-07-02 16:42:56 UTC
NO TROLL ZONE BELOW THIS LINE
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[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Mag's
Azn Empire
#55 - 2013-07-02 16:48:47 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
NO TROLL ZONE BELOW THIS LINE
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So how are you going to reply to other posts then? Surely you'll have to follow your own rules?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#56 - 2013-07-02 16:57:39 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
NO TROLL ZONE BELOW THIS LINE
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So how are you going to reply to other posts then? Surely you'll have to follow your own rules?


Obviously the forum MODs determined my post to be legitimate, otherwise they wouldn't have moved my post to the OFFICIAL FEATURES AND DISCUSSION forums.

Nice try though, troll.

CCP I will not stand for being slandered by this troll any further. Please remove him from my thread he is trying to derail it.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Mag's
Azn Empire
#57 - 2013-07-02 17:03:11 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
NO TROLL ZONE BELOW THIS LINE
_________________________________________________________________________________________________
So how are you going to reply to other posts then? Surely you'll have to follow your own rules?


Obviously the forum MODs determined my post to be legitimate, otherwise they wouldn't have moved my post to the OFFICIAL FEATURES AND DISCUSSION forums.

Nice try though, troll.

CCP I will not stand for being slandered by this troll any further. Please remove him from my thread he is trying to derail it.
I'm merely replying to your posts. You brought up the rule regarding trolls, are we not allowed to participate in how the rules apply here?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#58 - 2013-07-02 17:05:37 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
NO TROLL ZONE BELOW THIS LINE
_________________________________________________________________________________________________
So how are you going to reply to other posts then? Surely you'll have to follow your own rules?


Obviously the forum MODs determined my post to be legitimate, otherwise they wouldn't have moved my post to the OFFICIAL FEATURES AND DISCUSSION forums.

Nice try though, troll.

CCP I will not stand for being slandered by this troll any further. Please remove him from my thread he is trying to derail it.
I'm merely replying to your posts. You brought up the rule regarding trolls, are we not allowed to participate in how the rules apply here?


Your forum etiquette is reprehensible.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Onomerous
Caldari Black Hand
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#59 - 2013-07-02 17:19:49 UTC
0/10

As stated before, I could go higher if he wasn't trying so hard. Terrible idea and you should feel terrible.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-07-02 17:35:55 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:

Obviously the forum MODs determined my post to be legitimate, otherwise they wouldn't have moved my post to the OFFICIAL FEATURES AND DISCUSSION forums.

No, no, no, you don't get it, this is where they move ideas to die. Good or Bad.
In this case it has been just way to fun to troll in the Official troll thread that was given to us by the ISD.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.