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If someone agresses my wingman (woman)...

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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-07-01 22:33:20 UTC
Can I attack him?

So... after pestering my wife to play for the last several weeks she has finally completed the tutorials and we are getting ready to start her SoE epic arc.

While we are in the vicinity we may take to some exploration/ratting etc..

So if we are just minding our business and one of us gets attacked can the other fleet member(s) attack without penalty?

Seems a sensible thing to me.

Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-07-01 22:44:29 UTC
There are too many different scenarios too consider to make a blanket statement. However, if he starts blinking on your overview, then you are weapons free. If in doubt, leave your safety on green and lock and fire any way. If your ship won't fire, then it is not legal for you too.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2013-07-01 22:47:03 UTC
Need more information. What was the security status of the system? Were you in the middle of a mission? Did the person arrive in the mission area as a neutral and then go blinky (to your fleetmate)?

How did you Veterans start?
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-07-01 22:56:58 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
Need more information. What was the security status of the system? Were you in the middle of a mission? Did the person arrive in the mission area as a neutral and then go blinky (to your fleetmate)?


Purely hypothetical.

We are just getting ready to start creeping into more dangerous systems and I don't want her rage quitting on me :D

Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#5 - 2013-07-01 23:04:24 UTC
Tixam Quri wrote:
I don't want her rage quitting on me :D


Show her the shoe store in the Nobel Exchance and get her some aurum.
Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-07-01 23:11:57 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Tixam Quri wrote:
I don't want her rage quitting on me :D


Show her the shoe store in the Nobel Exchance and get her some aurum.


This is one of her biggest complaints about the game... She loves putting cute outfits on her game avatars and prancing about.

In EVE there is very little prancing...

Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#7 - 2013-07-01 23:19:15 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Tixam Quri wrote:
ShahFluffers wrote:
Need more information. What was the security status of the system? Were you in the middle of a mission? Did the person arrive in the mission area as a neutral and then go blinky (to your fleetmate)?


Purely hypothetical.

We are just getting ready to start creeping into more dangerous systems and I don't want her rage quitting on me :D

Hypothetically...

If you go into low-sec and both of you have -4.9 security status or higher (you most likely do) then if when someone attacks one of you they will go "suspect status." You will then be perfectly free to engage without fear of any penalty.

Be aware that this mechanic runs independent of the fleet, corporate, and/or alliance mechanics.

High-sec aggression mechanics are a different beast and a bit more convoluted.


However, the best thing you both can do is use more nimble ships and D-Scan (directional scanner... found to the left of your capacitor HUD) to avoid and/or escape from danger before hostiles can grab you. It will take practice and you both will be blown up as you learn.

How did you Veterans start?
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#8 - 2013-07-01 23:42:49 UTC
The only circumstances where someone would be free to attack one of you and not the other:

-You are in different player corps, and the aggressor has a war going with one of you but not the other.
-You or your partner have gone "suspect" (or criminal), which allows anyone to freely aggress the suspect but not the attacker
-You or your partner have a security status of -5.0 or below


If someone in high-security space were to attack you without provocation (without one of you going Suspect or a valid war), they would go criminal - in addition to being attackable by everyone, CONCORD will be coming down on them in a few seconds to destroy their ship.

If someone in low-security space were to do so in front of a gate or a station, they would take a security status hit and eat gate/station gun fire, but this is not nearly so untankable as CONCORD. If they attacked away from a gate or station there is no penalty save the security status hit. However, once he attacked, he would go "suspect" and your wingman could attack freely.



Being in a fleet does not have any effect whatsoever on aggression mechanics.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-07-02 00:36:44 UTC
Tixam Quri wrote:
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Tixam Quri wrote:
I don't want her rage quitting on me :D


Show her the shoe store in the Nobel Exchance and get her some aurum.


This is one of her biggest complaints about the game... She loves putting cute outfits on her game avatars and prancing about.

In EVE there is very little prancing...


doesnt sound like her type of game...

but in all seriousness since you are her partner you should aggress whoever attacks her out of principle. If you are in low sec you won't be concorded and unless she somehow has a limited engagement with the hostile or she herself is suspect then you will take sec status hits and become suspect

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Tixam Quri
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-07-02 01:00:17 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
If someone in high-security space were to attack you without provocation (without one of you going Suspect or a valid war), they would go criminal - in addition to being attackable by everyone, CONCORD will be coming down on them in a few seconds to destroy their ship.

If someone in low-security space were to do so in front of a gate or a station, they would take a security status hit and eat gate/station gun fire, but this is not nearly so untankable as CONCORD. If they attacked away from a gate or station there is no penalty save the security status hit. However, once he attacked, he would go "suspect" and your wingman could attack freely.



Being in a fleet does not have any effect whatsoever on aggression mechanics.



This tells me that yes, I can freely engage and likewise can she if we are:

1) not already suspect

2) not the aggressor

Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Tixam Quri wrote:
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Tixam Quri wrote:
I don't want her rage quitting on me :D


Show her the shoe store in the Nobel Exchance and get her some aurum.


This is one of her biggest complaints about the game... She loves putting cute outfits on her game avatars and prancing about.

In EVE there is very little prancing...


doesnt sound like her type of game...

but in all seriousness since you are her partner you should aggress whoever attacks her out of principle. If you are in low sec you won't be concorded and unless she somehow has a limited engagement with the hostile or she herself is suspect then you will take sec status hits and become suspect


She's a little stubborn, but she is warming up nicely :D

Of course it's principle.. nobody f u c k s with my wife Twisted

Jafit McJafitson- "try scamming people. it's like PvP, but with words. Their greed is your warp scrambler, your lies are your autocannons."
Echo Echoplex
#11 - 2013-07-02 01:45:12 UTC
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Tixam Quri wrote:
I don't want her rage quitting on me :D


Show her the shoe store in the Nobel Exchance and get her some aurum.

You really need to hang it up with this type of boolsheet.

Untutored courage is useless in the face of educated bullets. Gen. George S. Patton
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-07-02 15:19:37 UTC
Echo Echoplex wrote:
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Tixam Quri wrote:
I don't want her rage quitting on me :D


Show her the shoe store in the Nobel Exchance and get her some aurum.

You really need to hang it up with this type of boolsheet.

What's wrong with aurum? Chicks dig aurum. "Hang it up"? That a stealth statement NEX needs more clothes? I agree. Especially more leather. When one wears leather, it's almost like one has thicker skin on, eh?

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Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#13 - 2013-07-02 16:16:27 UTC
Echo Echoplex wrote:
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:
Tixam Quri wrote:
I don't want her rage quitting on me :D


Show her the shoe store in the Nobel Exchance and get her some aurum.

You really need to hang it up with this type of boolsheet.


Bullshit?...I guess you haven't been around a woman, ever. They love shoes of any type even fake video game shoes.

If you're a woman and I offended you I'm terribly sorry. Now get back in the kitchen!
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#14 - 2013-07-03 00:15:25 UTC
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