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anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
#1 - 2013-07-01 18:58:57 UTC  |  Edited by: anastasia kernsky
to make it more of a risk and reward make it more of a guessing game its to easy to know what some one is hauling i want the gankers to pop ship and some times get nothing but some times get a big pay dayTwisted. i think its time we haulers get something that protect us from getting ganked as often as we do when we haul big amount of materials worth billions of isk .P

i have never been ganked because i do not fly my freighter that far but my friend has lost a few freighter to gank squads when he told me that i went and bought freight cans thinking that would keep them from knowing what i had in my ship but my friend said that they can see into the can so i tested it and he was rightSad.
how i thought the scanner worked was it would scan ur hold and tell them u have some ammo out side the cans and 2 freight can not that it would tell them every thing i have in the cans and hold X

courier contracts in containers dont work friend scanned my ship and could tell me what i have


the cans can be a T2 version of the original

PVPers and Ganker get Kittend off when u threten there ez way of life with a change to something that would challenge them

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2013-07-01 18:59:45 UTC
You can already hide your cargo from scanners.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#3 - 2013-07-01 19:00:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
You can already hide your cargo from scanners.


This


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Noriko Mai
#4 - 2013-07-01 19:02:08 UTC
anastasia kernsky wrote:
to make it more of a risk and reward make it more of a guessing game its to easy to know what some one is hauling i want the gankers to pop ship and some times get nothing but some times get a big pay dayTwisted. i think its time we haulers get something that protect us from getting ganked as often as we do when we haul big amount of materials worth billions of isk .P

i have never been ganked because i do not fly my freighter that far but my friend has lost a few freighter to gank squads when he told me that i went and bought freight cans thinking that would keep them from knowing what i had in my ship but my friend said that they can see into the can so i tested it and he was rightSad.
how i thought the scanner worked was it would scan ur hold and tell them u have some ammo out side the cans and 2 freight can not that it would tell them every thing i have in the cans and hold X


the cans can be a T2 version of the original

Big smileSadCryEvilEvil use X courier contracts in containers Roll

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#5 - 2013-07-01 19:08:58 UTC
Answers above... but your logic is failing.

A freighter with something to hide is automatically worth ganking.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Noriko Mai
#6 - 2013-07-01 19:12:31 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
Answers above... but your logic is failing.

A freighter with something to hide is automatically worth ganking.

OP asked for a way to hide his cargo... It's pretty obvious that a freighter with something to hide is automatically worth ganking.
It would be interesting if it becomes the norm. Then this will be no issue anymore.

"Meh.." - Albert Einstein
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#7 - 2013-07-01 19:20:37 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Answers above... but your logic is failing.

A freighter with something to hide is automatically worth ganking.

OP asked for a way to hide his cargo... It's pretty obvious that a freighter with something to hide is automatically worth ganking.
It would be interesting if it becomes the norm. Then this will be no issue anymore.


I was replying to the OP, not your post. OP was thinking that hiding the value would help.

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#8 - 2013-07-01 19:39:52 UTC
Blockade Runners. Look them up.

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Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-07-01 20:11:37 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
War Kitten wrote:
Answers above... but your logic is failing.

A freighter with something to hide is automatically worth ganking.

OP asked for a way to hide his cargo... It's pretty obvious that a freighter with something to hide is automatically worth ganking.
It would be interesting if it becomes the norm. Then this will be no issue anymore.


Gankers say this, but in practice I have found the inverse to be true. When an item is double wrapped it just shows up as a cargo container. AFAIK there is no way to tell if it is an empty container or full. My freighter has a freight container that stays in the cargo hold 24/7, 50% of the time it's empty, 40% of the time its low value items not double wrapped, and 10% of the time its a loot pinata that's double wrapped and hidden. I have flown by gank squads in Udema many times in my freighter with an empty freight container, not once have they ganked me (or attempted to). If people are going to start ganking anything with a cargo container in it's hold (especially now that they are player made and transported around more), well ganking is going to cease to be profitable as they are going to gank a lot of people for empty containers.

There are enough fools that fly around with out double wrapping that most intelligent gank squads are not going to spend 750mil-1bil ganking a mystery box when they just need to wait another 3-4 min for another loot pintia freighter that is a sure thing.

Does anybody know anybody firsthand that has lost their freighter to a gank even after double wrapping it?
anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
#10 - 2013-07-01 21:45:28 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Blockade Runners. Look them up.



yea if i want to make 2k or more trips and have no life to move all the ore 23 jumps each way i prefer to move all my ore at one time so i can build ships once i refine it

also i like to haul every thing i get to keep cost down on the stuff i build

PVPers and Ganker get Kittend off when u threten there ez way of life with a change to something that would challenge them

Logical Chaos
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-07-01 22:03:10 UTC
Hello fellow non-native english speaker.

Please note that in the english language short sentences are king. Your posts had sentences filling three whole lines.
anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
#12 - 2013-07-01 22:13:35 UTC
Logical Chaos wrote:
Hello fellow non-native english speaker.

Please note that in the english language short sentences are king. Your posts had sentences filling three whole lines.



i was born and raised in the usa the only language i use is English. so what if use 3 lines besides ur off topic

PVPers and Ganker get Kittend off when u threten there ez way of life with a change to something that would challenge them

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#13 - 2013-07-01 22:19:45 UTC
anastasia kernsky wrote:
Logical Chaos wrote:
Hello fellow non-native english speaker.

Please note that in the english language short sentences are king. Your posts had sentences filling three whole lines.



i was born and raised in the usa the only language i use is English. so what if use 3 lines besides ur off topic


When you use English like that, you can't really blame someone for thinking you're an ESL superstar.
Logical Chaos
Very Italian People
The Initiative.
#14 - 2013-07-01 23:07:25 UTC
anastasia kernsky wrote:
Logical Chaos wrote:
Hello fellow non-native english speaker.

Please note that in the english language short sentences are king. Your posts had sentences filling three whole lines.



i was born and raised in the usa the only language i use is English. so what if use 3 lines besides ur off topic


It was because it damages my feelings reading a post like that:

anastasia kernsky wrote:
to make it more of a risk and reward make it more of a guessing game its to easy to know what some one is hauling i want the gankers to pop ship and some times get nothing but some times get a big pay dayTwisted. i think its time we haulers get something that protect us from getting ganked as often as we do when we haul big amount of materials worth billions of isk .P

i have never been ganked because i do not fly my freighter that far but my friend has lost a few freighter to gank squads when he told me that i went and bought freight cans thinking that would keep them from knowing what i had in my ship but my friend said that they can see into the can so i tested it and he was rightSad.
how i thought the scanner worked was it would scan ur hold and tell them u have some ammo out side the cans and 2 freight can not that it would tell them every thing i have in the cans and hold X

courier contracts in containers dont work friend scanned my ship and could tell me what i have


the cans can be a T2 version of the original
Sir Mack Inawrex
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
#15 - 2013-07-01 23:13:38 UTC
anastasia kernsky wrote:
to make it more of a risk and reward make it more of a guessing game its to easy to know what some one is hauling i want the gankers to pop ship and some times get nothing but some times get a big pay dayTwisted.

It's like you've never even heard of the loot fairy.

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Jimmy Morane
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-07-01 23:18:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Jimmy Morane
Logical Chaos wrote:
anastasia kernsky wrote:
Logical Chaos wrote:
Hello fellow non-native english speaker.

Please note that in the english language short sentences are king. Your posts had sentences filling three whole lines.



i was born and raised in the usa the only language i use is English. so what if use 3 lines besides ur off topic


It was because it damages my feelings reading a post like that:

anastasia kernsky wrote:
to make it more of a risk and reward make it more of a guessing game its to easy to know what some one is hauling i want the gankers to pop ship and some times get nothing but some times get a big pay dayTwisted. i think its time we haulers get something that protect us from getting ganked as often as we do when we haul big amount of materials worth billions of isk .P

i have never been ganked because i do not fly my freighter that far but my friend has lost a few freighter to gank squads when he told me that i went and bought freight cans thinking that would keep them from knowing what i had in my ship but my friend said that they can see into the can so i tested it and he was rightSad.
how i thought the scanner worked was it would scan ur hold and tell them u have some ammo out side the cans and 2 freight can not that it would tell them every thing i have in the cans and hold X

courier contracts in containers dont work friend scanned my ship and could tell me what i have


the cans can be a T2 version of the original


Also, commas are your friends.
QuakeGod
Empire Manufacturing
#17 - 2013-07-01 23:21:49 UTC
I automatically disregard any post that contains 'ur' in place of 'your', and 'u' in place of 'you'.

Someone should have paid a little more attention in English class rather than constantly checking on your skill queue on your iphone/android.
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#18 - 2013-07-02 00:39:53 UTC
QuakeGod wrote:
I automatically disregard any post that contains 'ur' in place of 'your', and 'u' in place of 'you'.

Someone should have paid a little more attention in English class rather than constantly checking on your skill queue on your iphone/android.



Or any perfectionisht should realzi that plenty of people that can read white papers and other stuff don't give a flying truck about being careful or precise.

its not about english class.. it is about being rude... I will agree that my poor typing is a bit inconsiderate... but I'm bad at typing and I figure I shouldn't need to take more time typing than i would talking.

I can't type as quikcly as i talk so thats the burden others bear.

.
Hessian Arcturus
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-07-02 01:13:58 UTC
Fly with an escort fleet... Personally, I wouldn't undock a capital ship at all if I knew I didn't have an escort...

It's human nature to want to explore. To find your line and go beyond it. The only limit, is the one you set yourself.
anastasia kernsky
Clan Wolf Hunters
#20 - 2013-07-02 06:42:10 UTC
QuakeGod wrote:
I automatically disregard any post that contains 'ur' in place of 'your', and 'u' in place of 'you'.

Someone should have paid a little more attention in English class rather than constantly checking on your skill queue on your iphone/android.


when you spend all day texting on your phone and in game chat then go to type on forums some of my habits spill over on to this.
for your info i had a B in english class. i didnt have a cell phone till i turned 18 and could afford it on my own.

text has become it's own language so maybe i do know two languages. grammar police go kitten ur self
please get back on topic

PVPers and Ganker get Kittend off when u threten there ez way of life with a change to something that would challenge them

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